The best football article you'll read today.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/so...eutralises-philosophies-of-the-past-1.3874358
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/so...eutralises-philosophies-of-the-past-1.3874358
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[Football] Modern football is a battle of systems (Why Roy Keane was wrong to rant about Utd stars)
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beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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i think it has an awful lot to do with the application of players. Man U players are not the same energy level of Liverpool, regardless of system.
Barham's tash
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Fantastic article and very plainly spells out why genuine competitiveness in this league is basically impossible.
One approach to this tactic could be to fight fire with fire and come back next season with the fittest team in the league and simply chase to cause mistakes and then exploit the mistakes?
One approach to this tactic could be to fight fire with fire and come back next season with the fittest team in the league and simply chase to cause mistakes and then exploit the mistakes?
Mourinho tactics you mean? [emoji23]
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Enjoyed reading that, thank you for posting. Holds up a far more eloquent argument to those who simply say players are "not up for it" or "simply given up" or "cannot be bothered".
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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Brilliant article and makes you realise Hughton's attacking tactics are like something out of the ark.
Yeah that's right. Because we have the likes of Aguero, Sane, Salah, Sterling, Mane, Firminho etc etc don't we. FFS!
You really read that article and thought that? Some people are beyond hope.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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What the f*ck are you on about? You don't need players of that quality to play a pressing game, Bielsa does it at Leeds to good effect.
Barham's tash
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To a degree I suppose but personally if I were assembling the squad I wouldn’t do it with the lumbering hulk type players he chooses but perhaps something akin to a squad of silent assassins.
Small nippy buggers who can get amongst them but not get knocked off the ball. Basically we need 11 people of the stature and determination of Sergio Aguero - come on Tony, get the cheque book out!
No, he had the tallest team(s) in the league, not the fittest.
TSB
Captain Hindsight
In a league with Rotherham, Bolton and Reading.
Wow. That's definitely comparable.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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Lush
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I disagree with him on one point...
"Today’s teams don’t like giving the ball away with hit-and-hope crosses."
"Today’s teams don’t like giving the ball away with hit-and-hope crosses."
sussex_guy2k2
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- Jun 6, 2014
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A brilliant article.
mejonaNO12 aka riskit
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Sorry. I'm not reading that. I learnt from the Alex Scott thread that you need to have played at the highest level to be allowed to comment on tactics.
Who does this Ken bloke think he is?
Who does this Ken bloke think he is?
TSB
Captain Hindsight
Consistently, yes. Look at the squad depths of the big six.
If you look back at our performances in the first half of the season, we were pressing all over the pitch and getting results for our efforts. Bruno was quoted as saying last pre-season was the hardest he'd done, in terms of the running and focus on pressing.
But because our squad is rubbish for this level, a couple of injuries and the replacement players can't do that. And those, like Propper and Murray, are tired from doing so every game. Therefore we sit back and soak up pressure. And lose far more.
Leeds are a huge fish in that division. Their squad will be better and fitter than at least 15 other teams in that league and the tactics probably give them a 4-5 place advantage.
TSB
Captain Hindsight
Ha. They did first half. But second half I thought they looked tired and, once Shelvey went off, vulnerable.
Yeah, they have a much better team than us too. But not that much in squad depth. Hence why they didn't do it for 90 minutes I suppose.
If we could have kept up the effort of our first half of the season (and with a few more generous refereeing decisions), we'd have likely finished without about Newcastle's point total.