He's not so great at coming off his line and dominating the 6 year box either.
Just a modest addition......
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[Albion] Maty Ryan - analysis & discussion
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Just a modest addition......
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
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Not sure being asked to play that way comes naturally to any keeper, to be honest. And not to too many defenders either
drew
Drew
Great, you pick one example. A lot of keepers wouldn't have saved that. Look at his stats, last season 38 games, 117 saves and arguably the best save of the premier league season against Southampton.
It really isn't worth it, you're arguing with posters prepared to keep this going after a 0Xg game while being led by Dwayne.
It's Matxit.
albionalex
Well-known member
Yes, I have read all of the comments moaning that he didn't save the penalty or the offside shot.
No problem with people wanting to upgrade but after yesterdays game where he didn't face a non-penalty shot, the timing is bizarre.
Equally bizarre is the fact that everyone agrees the club doesn't already have a player to replace him.
While knowing it's impossible to replace him for 3 months.
Yet here we are all living in Dwayne's Fantasy Forum.
Some very detailed analysis for anyone interested. Could be interpreted as Maty being somewhat around or slightly above average amongst other EPL keepers - ie pretty good, and at least at our current overall level. FWIW I would n't see many keepers keeping out Batshit's shot yesterday, was hit very hard.
https://totalfootballanalysis.com/d...n-the-premier-league-data-analysis-statistics
On whoscored.com, his overall rating last season was 23/37 - this season he's currently rated 19/24 so on that basis has dipped.
https://totalfootballanalysis.com/d...n-the-premier-league-data-analysis-statistics
On whoscored.com, his overall rating last season was 23/37 - this season he's currently rated 19/24 so on that basis has dipped.
blue-shifted
Banned
No truck with Maty at all, he's been terrific, but I agree with anyone saying we should consider the overall Goalkeeping situation
For two years, Hughton and Potter had Steele as third choice behind Button …. and Button is a back up at best at PL level. On that basis I’m not at all confident that if Ryan was out through injury suspension, self isolation, Asia cup etc we could bring someone in of the same or similar quality.
Our direct competitor teams have more experienced and probably better understudy’s than we have, eg Dubravka, Hennesey, Heaton, Gunn, Randolph have played lots of recent PL games and in most cases international experience
The question then is do we need to recruit and a lot depends on Walton’s injury prognosis, Sanchez development and what they see from Steele in training. Though the fact that Steele is 2nd choice and he was behind Button is a worry.
Oh and it’s obvious logic and near universally recognised that if a player has genuine competition for his place then he’s likely to fight harder to continually improve his game
For two years, Hughton and Potter had Steele as third choice behind Button …. and Button is a back up at best at PL level. On that basis I’m not at all confident that if Ryan was out through injury suspension, self isolation, Asia cup etc we could bring someone in of the same or similar quality.
Our direct competitor teams have more experienced and probably better understudy’s than we have, eg Dubravka, Hennesey, Heaton, Gunn, Randolph have played lots of recent PL games and in most cases international experience
The question then is do we need to recruit and a lot depends on Walton’s injury prognosis, Sanchez development and what they see from Steele in training. Though the fact that Steele is 2nd choice and he was behind Button is a worry.
Oh and it’s obvious logic and near universally recognised that if a player has genuine competition for his place then he’s likely to fight harder to continually improve his game
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
No it’s one example why can’t we have a discussion about players without people taking it personally it’s just an opinion. I would say he an average PL keeper nothing that special. Not great at commanding the area and comes out far to quick on one on ones for my liking. Again don’t take it personally we all have different views.
Gotta wonder if most, very nearly all, posters think Ryan is an average at best Premier League keeper, what the f**k is this thread about?
drew
Drew
Because I was answering some idiot that implied that nearly every goal bound shot is goal which is quite clearly not the case, ie 117 saves in 38 games and 54 goals conceded (the same as Chelsea and, apart from one, the lowest by any team in the bottom 10).
Maty Ryan is not the world's greatest ever keeper but he ain't bad. De Gae, Lloris, Pickford, even the two Brazilians make mistakes.
Seems some on here seem to think we should have the perfect keeper but the fact is, he doesn't exist.
He's at least 'average' - in an 'average' (at best currently) PL team isn't he ?.................. so arguably in the right place. I'm sure when we're ready/needing to upgrade something will be done but at the moment he's 'at his level' as someone might have said. I don't think he's the reason for our leakage so far this term.
Icy Gull
Back on the rollercoaster
- Jul 5, 2003
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You do realise how touchy and ratty you sound about any non ecstatic observations about Ryan don’t you?
I am, and have been, very happy to have him as our keeper. He has had some great games and some bang average games, as you’d expect. HOWEVER, I am still waiting for him to make a worldie or even very difficult save this season. Of course he couldn’t yesterday as it was a penalty and keepers can’t be expected to save them, but this thread is not just about yesterday is it?
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
True, like the look of the Villa keeper though that was a good signing. Forth season in he should of been a target for us as will probably give them a few extra points this season.
I will realise that when you realise just how stupid you come across as every time you accuse me of being this blind Uber fan and I reply with words to the effect of:-
'he's good enough for now, but will need to be replaced for a top 10 EPL Albion side, the stated aim of the club'.
I must have written that reply at least 10 times.
If those words are ecstatic praise you received an even colder upbringing than even I did.
Icy Gull
Back on the rollercoaster
- Jul 5, 2003
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Ratty and plain rude now. I’ll leave you to it
drew
Drew
Martinez is good and probably owes where he is now to Maupay's nudge on Leno. However, left Arsenal because he wasn't going to be the No.2 so he isn't going to come here with the possibility of doing the same.
and neither would Ryan stay with the possibility of being #2.
Nor would the club want him too as that'll be a awful lot of money sat on the bench, every single week.
GREASED WEASEL
New member
- Dec 10, 2017
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Who would buy him?
Everton
Just because many of us don't think he has top 10 Premier League value, doesn't mean he has none.
There's an awful lot of football out there and he's not exactly Sussex Born & Bred.