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[Albion] Matt Hughes The Times "Hughton feels the heat"
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Isn’t that The Guardian, sometimes they don’t even get the date right [emoji6]
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Not many do at the start of matches recently
Has he started in a game where we have actually gone for it from the off rather than a game we sit back in? Genuine question btw. This is when we’d see the best of him imo, not cameos when we are chasing a game.
We never go for it though, and that’s not a criticism, more of a fact.
We sometimes start at a high tempo, but don’t pile forward so to speak.
I know we differ on this one, but I just don’t rate him particularly.
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and have stayed one dimensional for all of 2019, with no hint of change.
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Hughton did drop Murray against Palace but Andone got injured in the warm up and then unavailable for the next couple of games.
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If it's something thousands of Brighton fans have been talking about for months, I don't see why a couple of players might not be thinking the same thing. Doesn't mean they want him out.
But it's worrying, only because we need absolutely everyone pulling in the same direction with no hint of discord in these next two matches. By Tuesday night we could be either safe, or in real trouble, even in the drop-zone. Any hint of a split between manager and players could result in a Palace play-off SF scenario. I don't mind the counter-attacking style if it delivers points, but the passing has to have tempo when you're going forward or it doesn't work. And you need more efforts on goal than we are managing to have a chance of wins.
But it's worrying, only because we need absolutely everyone pulling in the same direction with no hint of discord in these next two matches. By Tuesday night we could be either safe, or in real trouble, even in the drop-zone. Any hint of a split between manager and players could result in a Palace play-off SF scenario. I don't mind the counter-attacking style if it delivers points, but the passing has to have tempo when you're going forward or it doesn't work. And you need more efforts on goal than we are managing to have a chance of wins.
That'll be from just 11 starts, for which he's scored 2 goals.
Not to mention the 2 goals and an assist in the FA Cup.
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Locadia main run of starts (9) began at Bournemouth.
In that time he's been forced to play with Murray who has somehow managed 11 starts scoring only 3 goals.
Sadly my memory doesn't go much further back than the Southampton game where GM didn't have a single shot on target and I wasn't surprised.
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Now clearly Big Jurg isn't in the same Ali J camp having had plenty of time to acclimatize to his team mates, the league and the country and getting a decent run of consecutive starts
But to repeatedly lose his place to a player who doesn't fit the system and isn't performing has to be somewhat disheartening esp if your 15 minute cameos (word up) are the only highlight of some seriously dirgey football.
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I thought there were always bigger tits in the Sun !
Are you advocating his form when he has started is good enough to command a regular start ? My post agreed that from the bench he gets goals and assists and your response makes reference to goals than assists which came from the bench. You can't have your cake and eat it. When he starts he isn't as potent . That's all I have said.
My point is neither is Murray, in this 'new' system, and yet he's been allowed to stink the place out for weeks now, despite Locadia and Andone being the only consistent rays of sunshine we've had when they've replaced him.
Given our results since December, there are bound to be rumblings. But then surely it depends who's doing the rumbling. There are some fairly obvious contenders who, I imagine, would be told that if they don't like it, they're welcome to move on...
Personally, I think when we eventually have a stronger side, Hughton will take a more positive approach. However, I also think he underestimates our own ability sometimes when we take on teams who have been on a bad run. It would be nice to be more pro-active in those matches.
'Potent' isn't really a term you can apply to anyone. He has shown something though and perhaps he needs a few consecutive starts to prove/disprove the argument?
CH is more negative than my mum...and believe me she is negative with a capital N....
However, his job is to keep the club in the division. That is his main focus, so you cant blame him for having a dont concede attitude. I personally think the shackles will come off today though as we need to have more chances on goal! Well I hope so anyway.
However, his job is to keep the club in the division. That is his main focus, so you cant blame him for having a dont concede attitude. I personally think the shackles will come off today though as we need to have more chances on goal! Well I hope so anyway.
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Also, the Gaffer was an accomplished full back in his playing days and I suspect a clean sheet is always his first target. It's bred in the bone with defenders.
No wonder I read the Times; I like big tits.......what page are they on?
Murray got dropped v Palace until Andone got injured in the warm up. Murray then scored that day which in effect gave him a reprieve. He has his limitations . My post was about Locadia. I don't wish to discuss Murray. His track record is decent but not mind blowing
I don't see how you can discuss any Albion players lack of potency in front of goal and not bring Murray into the discussion.
I love how the palace reprieve gets pulled out as some kind of redemption completely forgetting the fact he was 'dropped' because he was so poor, then went on to start and play far far worse v Millwall, Southampton and unsurprisingly City.
My bone of contention with 2019 is the managers refusal to change either the failing system or the players that are failing the system.
I believe CH has the players at his disposal to make 4-3-3 work very well but his reliance on GM and not running the risk of conceding a goal is holding everybody (esp Locadia, Andone and Ali J) back.
When I read that I assumed CH winter fuel allowance had finally arrived
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