LowKarate
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So, this BT Sport deal sounds pretty good.
Can you give us your thoughts on that?
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[Politics] Capitalism - for better? Or worse?
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So, this BT Sport deal sounds pretty good.
Can you give us your thoughts on that?
Live by the sea
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- Oct 21, 2016
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The market sets the rate. The laws of supply and demand. There isn't really a sensible alternative that's fair. Corbyn's labour will penalize people that want to work hard and improve their lives and will only really reward the people that don't really want to work hard or can't.
However annoying the Tories are, the alternative of an extreme left wing hard socialist Corbyn led labour is a hundred times worse ( SKy high interest rates bankrupting the country with spend spend spend plans) ' never ever forget that '
However annoying the Tories are, the alternative of an extreme left wing hard socialist Corbyn led labour is a hundred times worse ( SKy high interest rates bankrupting the country with spend spend spend plans) ' never ever forget that '
Or a balance somehere in the middle? Allowing the entreprenneurial and risk takers not to be penalised with spite taxes.
dingodan
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- Feb 16, 2011
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I'm poor and don't have a house. Assuming that you do have a house (owned or rented), I'd like to move in please.
Unless you want to segregate us based on wealth?
I also don't see why people who "pay" get to watch matches at the Amex, when those of us who "don't pay" are not allowed in.
It's 2019. Down with wealthism.
dingodan
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- Feb 16, 2011
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The realization that the end of Capitalism wasn't such good news after all?
Shropshire Seagull
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The stone-age? Not had one of them for a while ....
I would challenge that everything has a life-cycle - religion seems to be here to stay ....
Some of the less-effective market types are being consumed by Capitalism - the USSR, now broken up, is gradually surrendering its recent [1917] communist basics and the Chinese are fast becoming the manufacturing global leader - how long before they surrender communism for capitalism?
Capitalism in decline? Where's the evidence?
- Jan 3, 2012
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I'm not a Corbyn lover, but that really is a very jaundiced view.
Whether you're a Brexiter or a Remainer, it is the stunning incompetence of the Tories who have got us inbto the current mess, being laughed at by the rest of the world.
Knocky's Nose
Mon nez est en Valenciennes..
I genuinely think that whoever Cameron handed the poisoned chalice over to would have struggled, wether Labour, Conservative or anyone else.
Forty years of intertwining cannot be undone in two. It was always going to be a shambles unless we rolled over and took any deal(s) they threw at us - or we appointed 3,000 new ministers and threw bodies at it. Neither has happened.
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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Russia hasnt been communist for decades. China onlyreally politically communist while embracing market economy and capitalism, drag themselves from agarian impoverishment in 1970s to near worlds largest economy today.
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
Project Fear.
Even the Daily Mail ramps down it's idiotic rhetoric to a certain degree.
Did you write down 'extreme', 'left wing', 'hard' and 'socialist' throw them up in the air and write them down in whatever order they fell in?
Everything has a life cycle including religion at some point in the past humans on this isle worshiped water gods not many of those believers around today.
Capitalisum in decline evidance number of recessions severity and increasing regularity it appears the Wolrd from reports is on the brink of another global rescesion
That maybe the case if only we could see the future as well as the past
Knocky's Nose
Mon nez est en Valenciennes..
We might be doing that again in 100 years time.
McTavish
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What specific "extreme left wing hard socialist" policies are you most concerned about?
father_and_son
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I would say there is a lot more scope for "Not-for-Profit" organisations where everything goes to the employees, but unfortunately you need investors to have the money to set up in the first place.
Personally I would like to see an option for a company structure that rewards investors but only for a fixed period of time and on a sliding scale so that at the end of, say, 10years or after an agreed return on the investment, the investors are considered to be paid off and the company can operate as a not-for-profit organisation... this would mean the cost base could drop and/or employee benefits increase. This would be better for consumers, staff and management and keep investor's money moving around the economy quickly so they maintain their returns.
Machiavelli
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That's hilarious. Genuinely laugh out loud funny. Capitalism has undergone various forms, some compatible with democracy, others not. Democracy predates capitalism, but capitalism predates modern democracy. Ancient democracy was initiated against oligarchy and included Solon's cancellation of debt. I could go on but, in response to your ridiculous first sentence, democracy is a political form of power or organisation, whereas capitalism is an economic mode of organisation.
You're just giving more ammunition to my long-held suspicion that you're paid by some vile free market thinktank to write this drivel (probably, in turn, funded by the Koch brothers), alongside the Daily Mail tagline, and the affected sentence construction that you insist upon.
Machiavelli
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Mind you, you've been outdone on this first page by [MENTION=41]Tesco in Disguise[/MENTION]
symyjym
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In bold just undermines any serious point you may have had.
Machiavelli
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I'm unable to make serious points.
I think some of us should work hard and show entrepreneurship and pay a half of what we earn to people who can’t/won’t work!