[Albion] Do you expect our new signings to kick on next season?

chaileyjem · Apr 10, 2019

A couple of recent goals from MacAllister.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZGqgQq3vDI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHGTDZl4RKw

LamieRobertson · Apr 10, 2019

chaileyjem said:
A couple of recent goals from MacAllister.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZGqgQq3vDI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHGTDZl4RKw

Not enough hair for SB's liking

Stat Brother · Apr 10, 2019

LamieRobertson said:
Not enough hair for SB's liking

Not enough of anything:-

No hair
No flair
No f'ing umlaut

Hampster Gull · Apr 10, 2019

Yes. Where’s the Pole?

Dirk Lehmann's Python · Apr 10, 2019

albionfan37 said:
Jahanbksh and bissouma will get better both full backs also along with andone with a proper pre season

Hahaha the "proper pre season" cliché busted out in literally the 1st reply.

As if a pre season makes a player good but 20 EPL matches and training every day for 8 months doesn't.

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Machiavelli · Apr 10, 2019

Weststander said:
Something’s got to dramatically improve in our midfield, we never control PL games or large passages of them, or create much.

I’m sure the club are looking at that.

Kayal, Gross, Propper and Bissouma may be admired by most of us, but none of them are producing the attacking goods.

Or, we stay the team that is generally outplayed.

Apologies. Upgrade on Stephens for me would be the first move. Bissouma developing better footballing intelligence, without losing his impudence and inventiveness, allowing Propper and Gross to do what they do best.

Weststander · Apr 10, 2019

Machiavelli said:
Apologies. Upgrade on Stephens for me would be the first move. Bissouma developing better footballing intelligence, without losing his impudence and inventiveness, allowing Propper and Gross to do what they do best.

That midfield would not give us a CM ball player with pace, able to control games and instinctively create chances. It would be more of the same.

Even Stains have Ward-Prowse and Armstrong, Burnley have McNeil and Westwood, for example. Allrounders able to drive forward, create, or run rings around those trying to dispossess them of the ball.

I’m impressed with Bissouma, but at this stage he’s a wildcard, a maverick, who can still fit in next to a new creative ACM.

Jimmy Grimble · Apr 10, 2019

I still can’t work out where Bissouma’s position is going to be.

I’d argue his best performances this season have been in games where he’s does a lot more sitting/shielding than attacking. Both Palace games as examples. Tempted to say he could be a DM who drives you up the pitch.

Weststander · Apr 10, 2019

Jimmy Grimble said:
I still can’t work out where Bissouma’s position is going to be.

I’d argue his best performances this season have been in games where he’s does a lot more sitting/shielding than attacking. Both Palace games as examples. Tempted to say he could be a DM who drives you up the pitch.

Isn’t he too indisiplined, far too inexperienced for that vital role?

Machiavelli · Apr 10, 2019

Weststander said:
That midfield would not give us a CM ball player with pace, able to control games and instinctively create chances. It would be more of the same.

Even Stains have Ward-Prowse and Armstrong, Burnley have McNeil and Westwood, for example. Allrounders able to drive forward, create, or run rings around those trying to dispossess them of the ball.

I’m impressed with Bissouma, but at this stage he’s a wildcard, a maverick, who can still fit in next to a new creative ACM.

You're neglecting the upgrade on Stephens.

dazzer6666 · Apr 10, 2019

Weststander said:
Isn’t he too indisiplined, far too inexperienced for that vital role?

For now perhaps, but developing quickly?

Weststander · Apr 10, 2019

dazzer6666 said:
For now perhaps, but developing quickly?

Have the rare attribute of genuine pace in our first team, I see him driving forward, unsettling opponents.

Weststander · Apr 10, 2019

Machiavelli said:
You're neglecting the upgrade on Stephens.

I’ve come round to liking him alot, again, he’s playing well.

We can’t afford to improve every position all at once, besides we’re pretty good at defending. Priority is get to make us better in attack.

Invicta · Apr 10, 2019

Weststander said:
Isn’t he too indisiplined, far too inexperienced for that vital role?

The fact he (Bissouma) continues to attempt to shoot every time he's 40 yds from goal suggests he's not easily 'coached'. Love his energy and enthusiasm but needs to play clever.

Jimmy Grimble · Apr 10, 2019

Weststander said:
Isn’t he too indisiplined, far too inexperienced for that vital role?

Well, yes and no. He was extremely disciplined when we beat Palace at home, his positional play was outstanding.

um bongo molongo · Apr 10, 2019

I’m surprised that people don’t think we need more reconstruction. Wembley was fun but a free hit really, we’ve been pretty dreadful most the season and aren’t creating enough chances (4 shots on target in last 3 games I think?). I’m not convinced about 4-5-1 (it’s not 4-3-3) and we lack pace - especially as we’re a side who even in the championship play on the break (though we used to do it much quicker). I don’t think Ali J is the answer and Locadia looks like a square peg in a round hole (he might actually be quite good in a true 4-3-3 or as second striker). I’m convinced Andone is a better baldock and would be better playing off a Murray-type.

A front two of Tammy Abraham and Andone would excite me - bit like Wilson and King at Bmuff. Someone like Ryan Sessegnon I think would kick on in a second season in the prem (and Fulham were good going forward, just can’t defend) and would add much needed pace on the transition. Also need a fast right sided player - Knocky too inconsistent and Ali too slow. Bissouma I think will kick on but I suspect ultimately in Stephens role. We need a box to box midfielder who scores goals. Should/could be Pröpper but he needs to start getting up the pitch and scoring. We can’t carry on playing 3 holding midfielders.

Weststander · Apr 10, 2019

um bongo molongo said:
I’m surprised that people don’t think we need more reconstruction. Wembley was fun but a free hit really, we’ve been pretty dreadful most the season and aren’t creating enough chances (4 shots on target in last 3 games I think?). I’m not convinced about 4-5-1 (it’s not 4-3-3) and we lack pace - especially as we’re a side who even in the championship play on the break (though we used to do it much quicker). I don’t think Ali J is the answer and Locadia looks like a square peg in a round hole (he might actually be quite good in a true 4-3-3 or as second striker). I’m convinced Andone is a better baldock and would be better playing off a Murray-type.

A front two of Tammy Abraham and Andone would excite me - bit like Wilson and King at Bmuff. Someone like Ryan Sessegnon I think would kick on in a second season in the prem (and Fulham were good going forward, just can’t defend) and would add much needed pace on the transition. Also need a fast right sided player - Knocky too inconsistent and Ali too slow. Bissouma I think will kick on but I suspect ultimately in Stephens role. We need a box to box midfielder who scores goals. Should/could be Pröpper but he needs to start getting up the pitch and scoring. We can’t carry on playing 3 holding midfielders.

We do need some reconstruction, we’ve been shite for much of this season.

The club/CH will be looking forward, to put us into contention in far more games, to give us creativity and more threat.

Hopefully they we’ll be moving on from the slow team and play, that leaves us very predictable and easily outplayed.

Not Andy Naylor · Apr 11, 2019

Machiavelli said:
Apologies. Upgrade on Stephens for me would be the first move. Bissouma developing better footballing intelligence, without losing his impudence and inventiveness, allowing Propper and Gross to do what they do best.

Stupid question perhaps, but what exactly is it that Propper does best? I don't think we've seen it, have we?

I think we need more energy and pace everywhere, especially in midfield. Good though Dunk and Duffy are in so many ways, our back four are too slow to defend high up, so our midfield and forwards are always too far from goal. Even our wide players (Izquierdo apart) are hardly going to worry fullbacks with pace. When players such as Andone do get forward, they look for support and the midfield is still plodding forward at a snail's pace. Gross can make up for lack of pace with speed of thought, but he's an exception.

Stat Brother · Apr 11, 2019

Invicta said:
The fact he (Bissouma) continues to attempt to shoot every time he's 40 yds from goal suggests he's not easily 'coached'. Love his energy and enthusiasm but needs to play clever.

That really doesn't matter though does it?
There's no difference between hitting the woodwork or hitting row Z.

Stat Brother · Apr 11, 2019

Not Andy Naylor said:
Stupid question perhaps, but what exactly is it that Propper does best? I don't think we've seen it, have we?

Davy completely controlled all the games through February.
We repeatedly watched a masterclass in midfield play, sadly that was only because he knew Ajax were watching him.

Now they've gone he had his hair cut and seems to have withdrawn into his shell, a little.

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