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[Albion] Glenn and his wife will face no charges from HMRC







Blue Valkyrie

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Now Glenn can celebrate by getting the albion winner v Bournemouth on Saturday.
 










trueblue

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Good old HMRC. Always keen to drag people's name through the mud - and half the time, when they do go to court, they lose.
 


B-right-on

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trueblue said:
Good old HMRC. Always keen to drag people's name through the mud - and half the time, when they do go to court, they lose.
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This. How much do they lose in Court/ legal costs, all tax payers money.
 






trueblue

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B-right-on said:
This. How much do they lose in Court/ legal costs, all tax payers money.
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The objectionable part is they still refuse to rule out future action against him. If they haven't got enough or any evidence, then in my opinion they should just refuse to comment on that rather than continue to imply he's done something wrong. It's disgraceful really.
 


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Hope he celebrates his next goal by pulling a load of fake money out of his socks and doing this

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NooBHA

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trueblue said:
The objectionable part is they still refuse to rule out future action against him. If they haven't got enough or any evidence, then in my opinion they should just refuse to comment on that rather than continue to imply he's done something wrong. It's disgraceful really.
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All they have said is that there is no ''Criminal Proceedings'' - That does not always equate to everything being above board.

I don't really think people should write too much on here on this subject. It just keeps the actions in the spotlight for longer.
 






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General tax notes, not specific to Murray about whose affairs I know nothing.

The vast majority of people who have underdeclared income for tax purposes, do not get prosecuted. The reason being that to prosecute, the tax avoider has to know that what they were doing was illegal; and if you were acting on advice from an accountant with a crafty scheme, you don't know it's illegal. Besides, HMRC is more concerned about getting the money in, and it's more profitable to get the taxpayer to pay up semi-voluntarily.

If HMRC believes a taxpayer to have paid too little tax, there is an established procedure of non-criminal courts to go through. And if the taxpayer has paid too little, they have to pay the missing tax plus penalties of up to 100% depending on how serious the offence. Just because a taxpayer hasn't reached the degree of culpability that makes their actions criminal, does not mean that tax has been paid correctly, and the penalties can still apply.
 


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NooBHA

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dsr-burnley said:
General tax notes, not specific to Murray about whose affairs I know nothing.

The vast majority of people who have underdeclared income for tax purposes, do not get prosecuted. The reason being that to prosecute, the tax avoider has to know that what they were doing was illegal; and if you were acting on advice from an accountant with a crafty scheme, you don't know it's illegal. Besides, HMRC is more concerned about getting the money in, and it's more profitable to get the taxpayer to pay up semi-voluntarily.

If HMRC believes a taxpayer to have paid too little tax, there is an established procedure of non-criminal courts to go through. And if the taxpayer has paid too little, they have to pay the missing tax plus penalties of up to 100% depending on how serious the offence. Just because a taxpayer hasn't reached the degree of culpability that makes their actions criminal, does not mean that tax has been paid correctly, and the penalties can still apply.
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This post has many inaccuracies about HMRC procedures ; You don't go through ''Non Criminal Courts'' - Someone should really lock the thread
 




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Goldstone1976

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NooBHA said:
This post has many inaccuracies about HMRC procedures ; You don't go through ''Non Criminal Courts'' - Someone should really lock the thread
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If threads were locked because someone posted an inaccuracy on them, there’d be precious few open. Personally, I don’t see any reason to lock this one unless it strays into libel or the posting of specific private information. :shrug:
 


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NooBHA

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If threads were locked because someone posted an inaccuracy on them, there’d be precious few open. Personally, I don’t see any reason to lock this one unless it strays into libel or the posting of specific private information. :shrug:
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Fair Enough

But most leaks of personal information come from HMRC themselves. If you keep this story in the Public Domain for any length of time then you are throwing a red rag to someone at HMRC to release more info on it
 


trueblue

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NooBHA said:
All they have said is that there is no ''Criminal Proceedings'' - That does not always equate to everything being above board.
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You're doing it as well now. I was making the point that's there's not much to be said, rather than casting the situation into doubt as you have (and as HMRC like to do). Maybe I should have written it in bold so it looked more important.
 
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HMRC are more interested in setting the little man up to pay more than they can afford, as was highlighted in the press last week, by their devious telephone calls.
 




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