OzMike
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VAR may well expose how biased the officials towards the big clubs rather than seeing fairness.
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[Albion] Red Card
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Worried Man Blues
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Isn't there a disputes procedure. I know it won't do us any good but to improve VAR for the future and some pain for the bods that bottled it and a 3 match ban for Walker. Good for Jahanbakhsh great reaction but ultimately that's why we get people rolling on the ground.
The only reason I can think of that it wasn’t is because of the hack and jump onto Walkers back just before that by Ali J and the ref saw it as both yellows or both reds.
That’s pushing it to say the least.
That’s pushing it to say the least.
The Birdman
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Nice to have an apology from the authorities I think they got this one wrong.
However we still may not of won this match as city would have been hard to break down but would have made it an exciting match.
However we still may not of won this match as city would have been hard to break down but would have made it an exciting match.
Justice
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The only time AJ didn’t throw himself on the floor ffs. Hughton pretty much said the same should of gone down face clutching.
portslade seagull
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Duffy got red for exactly the same thing against Palace, no consistency.
The difference is that the Palace player went down like hed been shot rolled around a little looked at the Ref to make sure he was aware end result red card
Tooting Gull
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- Jul 5, 2003
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Lewis Dunk: "I don’t know how no one could see it was a sending-off. I could see it from 60 yards away, it’s a sending-off. VAR...what's the point of it if you’re not going to make decisions in big games like this. It has cost us.”
Even with emotions running high, Dunk nails it. It brings the whole concept of VAR into disrepute if you can't get it right when using it. Apparently they used the slow-mo to decide? I mean, WTF? That HAS to be seen at normal speed to arrive at the correct decision, either way.
And of course in two consecutive rounds of the FA Cup we have now had the following. WIthout VAR - City get the decisions against Swansea to stay in the FA Cup, Brighton somehow and luckily survive three huge decisions going against them at Millwall. With VAR - City somehow still get the decision, Brighton are robbed. Anyone who tries to claim that the big clubs don't disproportionately get the decisions - it would appear with or without VAR - is off their heads.
Having said all that, it was a cracking day out, support was terrific, and the team did us proud.
Even with emotions running high, Dunk nails it. It brings the whole concept of VAR into disrepute if you can't get it right when using it. Apparently they used the slow-mo to decide? I mean, WTF? That HAS to be seen at normal speed to arrive at the correct decision, either way.
And of course in two consecutive rounds of the FA Cup we have now had the following. WIthout VAR - City get the decisions against Swansea to stay in the FA Cup, Brighton somehow and luckily survive three huge decisions going against them at Millwall. With VAR - City somehow still get the decision, Brighton are robbed. Anyone who tries to claim that the big clubs don't disproportionately get the decisions - it would appear with or without VAR - is off their heads.
Having said all that, it was a cracking day out, support was terrific, and the team did us proud.
Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
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A) Irrelevent
B) He made contact and scraped down AJ’s nose.
For someone who likes to quote the rules on here, I’m surprised at your post.
- Jul 10, 2003
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I'm not sure that people are completely 'Au fait' with the laws of Association Football.
Brighton's Hemed jumps in air and lands on prostrate player lying directly underneath him while challenging for the ball - Review and retrospective ban
Manchester United's Lukaku demonstrates windmill kung-fu kick on Bong whilst in different postcode to ball - Review and no case to answer
I have highlighted the relevant areas of the law to help those struggling to understand
Brighton's Hemed jumps in air and lands on prostrate player lying directly underneath him while challenging for the ball - Review and retrospective ban
Manchester United's Lukaku demonstrates windmill kung-fu kick on Bong whilst in different postcode to ball - Review and no case to answer
I have highlighted the relevant areas of the law to help those struggling to understand
I am sure it isn't possible, but it seems to me there should be a retrospective ban as he should have been sent off. The fact that the ref saw it and the VAR guy bottled it, doesn't change the fact it was a red. Makes the use of VAR much less attractive to me now. I thought it would deal with bad decisions rather than add to them!
darkwolf666
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Sorry, there is no way that Ali J’s offence was a red... Walker’s reaction equally did not justify a yellow. He stood over AJ saying something, which I guess wasn’t pleasant by AJ’s expression. I would never encourage an Albion player to get an opponent sent off, but AJ’s lack of reaction to what Walker did saved Walker from getting a red.
Hats off to AJ for the way he played it, big boos for the VAR official whom completely bottled it. I guess we’ll never know, but I can guess the outcome of that altercation if it had been Duffy or Dunk as the “aggressor”...
a) I didn't say it doesn't make it a red according to the laws of the game, just what it looked like to me as an attempt to possibly understand why they might have justified in their own minds not giving it.
b) thank you. Still can't bring myself to look at highlights yet.
Originunknown
BINFEST'ING
Red card offence. No debate. It doesn't mean the result would have been any different however.
Lower West Stander
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City have got away with murder in this year's FA Cup. No VAR in the quarter final against Swansea when they clearly would not have won had it been there.
Then, when we do have VAR in the semi, they get away with an incorrect decision through VAR which the authorities then admit they got wrong!
Talk about name on the cup....
Hope Spurs stuff them on Tuesday.
Then, when we do have VAR in the semi, they get away with an incorrect decision through VAR which the authorities then admit they got wrong!
Talk about name on the cup....
Hope Spurs stuff them on Tuesday.
Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
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Fair enough but it was a red. If they didn’t give it cos AJ stayed in his feet or because they only showed slow mo replays as various oundits claimed, then that is criminal!
maltaseagull
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As I said, its pushing it - but its the only reason I can possibly see why it was not a red.
I completely agree about the VAR part.
maltaseagull
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You know the answer to that!
BensGrandad
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Like most, I would think, I was not sure at the time but after VAR was certain it was not a red however son has shown me a still picture on twitter and I am now convinced that it should have been. VAR made a mistake, so what is the point of it being used?