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[Albion] Davy Propper to Ajax for 21m
- Thread starter dwayne
- Start date
THIS.
Here he is again, Mr Anti Propper!
You obviously don't like the bloke for whatever reason so why bother commenting. And like the other poster said.. you think we can do better
than £21M for him but you said he's shit, and then say you'd be happy to keep him and wipe the slate clean?
Poyningsgull
Well-known member
- Apr 12, 2007
- 1,637
I think he means we can spend the 21m on someone better
Asked him that before and never gave me a name...
Megazone
On his last warning
agreed.
When Propper plays well, he looks like the most naturally gifted player in the team. This coming season could be the season where we get to see Propper looking a lot more positive and commanding with his play. He's attack minded who's been forced to play defensively for 2 years. Madness to get rid when we might finally see our moneys worth.
Selling him for £20m would only give us back £11/12m profit for a player wanted by the Champions League finalists. That would be very crap business in my eyes.
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
- 70,371
What's the shelf life for this 'shackled by CH' bollocks currently being touted for Propper and a whole host of other under-performers. How long do we give them to 'express themselves' before coming to the conclusion that that they're really really not very good at this level? Can't leave it much beyond the end of the year I'd suggest. January transfer window could be busy.
Ninja Elephant
Doctor Elephant
- Feb 16, 2009
- 18,855
I think you'll very quickly see the difference in multiple players if they're played closer to their strengths than they have been previously. I think we'll also very quickly see certain other players drop out of the first team picture entirely because they've been kept around out of loyalty, rather than due to their quality.
- Jan 3, 2012
- 16,618
Maybe it doesn't have a shelf life because it is true. It happens elsewhere.
I could quote Solksjaer with Pogba after Mourinho, but then he's gone off a bit again now,
But closer to our level, when Hughes was replaced by Hasenhuettl at Saints, there were several players who blossomed fairly quickly, notably Redmond. I can well imagine that Potter will have the same effect with us.
Ninja Elephant
Doctor Elephant
- Feb 16, 2009
- 18,855
I completely agree - and I think with the benefit of pre-season with the squad (minus Izquierdo and Bissouma, which is a real shame because they're both starters), we'll see the best of our team early doors.
My only concern is that I've fallen for the new manager chatter before, Oscar Garcia told us he was obsessed with attacking football but never showed any signs of that being true with the Albion team he led. He massively overachieved, considering what he had, in his defence - but it wasn't attacking football!
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
Propper is quality. He's not going anywhere unless a significant offer comes in.
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
- 70,371
To be fair to OG, he did manage to reach the halfway line in half the numbers of passes it took GP. On average 10 passes instead of 20. Which I suppose is progress of a sort.
kjgood
Well-known member
Well for what it's worth, I think he is quality and if played in the right team with the right players around him and crucially in the right position with the right remit to attack I think he will shine. Now who's job is it I wonder to make that happen?
Icy Gull
Back on the rollercoaster
- Jul 5, 2003
- 72,015
So Mystic THPP ( or maybe Premier League ready talent spotter THPP) has decided that the players who WERE shackled last season are actually shit but we’ll leave the club to come to the same conclusion as THPP (who has already reached this conclusion of course) by January? Have I got this right?
I know this is a bit mean but...One In Ten Glenn
- Jun 27, 2012
- 13,946
Ha ! Poor old Potter - looks like already its expected that within weeks he will snap his fingers and release the "shackles" on our underperforming players, turn the existing players into attacking dynamos, be given the ££ to strengthen the first team with a bunch of English prospects, all of whom have "premier league experience", and also give most of our star u23s a chance.
Good luck with that little lot.
Good luck with that little lot.
blue-shifted
Banned
So how much money are Ajax going to rake in this summer in terms of transfer fees, £100m? £150m? How much Champions League money did they get for making the semis?
If Ajax do bid (50% chance) and If Davy does want to go (90% chance), Tony Bloom has a decision to make. He could wave through a move for an unsettled player for about what we paid for him (3% chance) or he could decide to rinse the hell out of a cash laden Ajax (47% chance) or he could do what he typically does and just point blank refuse to sell someone the manager would prefer to keep (50% chance)
If Ajax do bid (50% chance) and If Davy does want to go (90% chance), Tony Bloom has a decision to make. He could wave through a move for an unsettled player for about what we paid for him (3% chance) or he could decide to rinse the hell out of a cash laden Ajax (47% chance) or he could do what he typically does and just point blank refuse to sell someone the manager would prefer to keep (50% chance)
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
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So Mystic THPP ( or maybe Premier League ready talent spotter THPP) has decided that the players who WERE shackled last season are actually shit but we’ll leave the club to come to the same conclusion as THPP (who has already reached this conclusion of course) by January? Have I got this right?
I know this is a bit mean but...One In Ten Glenn
All these players who were supposedly shackled? Lovely to be rewriting history so soon after CH sacking. Like the manager had more than a modicum of influence of how that group of players played as soon as they set foot on the pitch. Sincerely looking forward to DS not looking to always playing the ball sideways if his first choice backward pass is not available. But won't be holding my breath.
Shackled my arse
Billy the Fish
Technocrat
I think OG is a brilliant example of a manager adapting his style to suit his playing staff. He very quickly realised that his squad wasn't capable of playing how he wanted so he had to revert back to what they were good at - basically Gus's tactics.
The opposite of that is Sammi Hyypia who tried to shoehorn players into a formation they didn't understand and weren't suited to, with disastrous results.
Icy Gull
Back on the rollercoaster
- Jul 5, 2003
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Some unusual hyperbole from you there Chailey. I suggest most of us who have a bit of enthusiasm for this move to changing the playing style expect it to be a tough job. Hey we might even actually enjoy games now and again, even when we lose and I don’t believe that a single fan expects it to work from the off either.
But you carry on wandering around in your sackcloth and ashes, occasionally flagellating yourself at the injustice of it all
Icy Gull
Back on the rollercoaster
- Jul 5, 2003
- 72,015
All these players who were supposedly shackled? Lovely to be rewriting history so soon after CH sacking. Like the manager had more than a modicum of influence of how that group of players played as soon as they set foot on the pitch. Sincerely looking forward to DS not looking to always playing the ball sideways if his first choice backward pass is not available. But won't be holding my breath.
Shackled my arse
Well I’m buggered, bring CH back if that’s the case. There was me thinking that the players played like he trained them to. I had no idea they ignored his instructions and went on the pitch and decided to defend in depth without showing any desire to attack in case they lost the ball and conceded on the counter.
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- Jun 27, 2012
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Some unusual hyperbole from you there Chailey. I suggest most of us who have a bit of enthusiasm for this move to changing the playing style expect it to be a tough job. Hey we might even actually enjoy games now and again, even when we lose and I don’t believe that a single fan expects it to work from the off either.
But you carry on wandering around in your sackcloth and ashes, occasionally flagellating yourself at the injustice of it all
Just trying to bring a degree of perspective to pre-season excitement Icy. But those expectations on Potter are rising.
releasing shackles, entertaining football, playing u23s, signing new players, progressive tactics, taking us to the "next level", getting Ali J scoring and no doubt keeping us in the Prem League with a cup run to boot.