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[Politics] Where is Corbyn ?



Hampster Gull

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Dec 22, 2010
13,462
Not tory biased at all. The government should be the only negotiators. If labour was the government then only they should be there. It's quite simple really

Our government isn’t even trying to land an agreement within the U.K., it is trying to stream roller it’s own views. Two votes down, worst ever and forth worst ever. They have lost all control, of course people will talk around them, they are the walking dead
 














Hugo Rune

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Feb 23, 2012
21,496
Brighton
Shame he won’t be at the march today. Looking forward to hearing from one of his likely successors.
 








maltaseagull

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Feb 25, 2009
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Zabbar- Malta
If he's in Brussels looking at the realistic alternatives once the worst PM in living memory has been booted out, then he's actually acting very responsibly (for a change).

He is going to challenge May for that title.
 






Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Trying to get the dog-walker vote.

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Surrey Phil

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Aug 3, 2010
1,473
Really worn out with all this he says she says nonsense. Literally staggering how some people claim to know what Corbyn is doing every minute of the day.

Parliament is split 50/50 so there will never be agreement on Brexit. 75% of MP’s in Parliament voted “remain” so will continue to vote against Brexit. Cutting to the chase, we may as well all just go and piss into the wind! :shrug:
 


Lower West Stander

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Mar 25, 2012
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Back in Sussex
Really worn out with all this he says she says nonsense. Literally staggering how some people claim to know what Corbyn is doing every minute of the day.

Parliament is split 50/50 so there will never be agreement on Brexit. 75% of MP’s in Parliament voted “remain” so will continue to vote against Brexit. Cutting to the chase, we may as well all just go and piss into the wind! :shrug:

No.

The real problem here is that too many MPs are following the party whip. If they all ignored it, things would move forward. The Brexit vote was not under party lines and its all gone wrong because they’ve all reverted to petty party politics.

Corbyn’s obsession with a general election has been very damaging. He must realise that May is so weak now that she will get kicked out whatever finally gets agreed. He has no pragmatism at all.



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Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Withdean area
He's had 3 years to nail his colours to a mast and stand next too it.

Had he done so, whether I agreed with him or not, I'd certainly have respect for him and his principles.

He simply can’t though, he faces a huge dilemma.

The Brexit vote figures in the Labour heartlands of Wales, the North and Midlands very signficant, in some places 65%. A world away from the Remain bubble of Brighton, Hove and London.

Whilst he’s also trying to appeal to the stauch Remainers in the 18 to 39 age bracket.

He needs both to win a general election. So he tries to keep quiet on the EU as much as can.
 


Javeaseagull

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Feb 22, 2014
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I can remember Tony Benn getting just the same vilification back in the day. The lies were horrendous. He was portrayed as a wild eyed prophet in the desert and all sorts of wacky images. Then he retired and suddenly everyone said he was wonderful. I once tried to book for his one man show. There was an 18 month waiting list.
Corbin is his successor.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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I can remember Tony Benn getting just the same vilification back in the day. The lies were horrendous. He was portrayed as a wild eyed prophet in the desert and all sorts of wacky images. Then he retired and suddenly everyone said he was wonderful. I once tried to book for his one man show. There was an 18 month waiting list.
Corbin is his successor.

That’s very true about Tony Benn. In his latter years he was loved all round as an ultra intelligent man of integrity, with a lifetime steeped in parliamentary and British living history. Before that his enemies were not just the Daily Mail and ‘the Establishment’ ... the Dennis Healey and James Callaghan dominant wing of the Labour Party loathed his maverick left wing agenda.
 




Javeaseagull

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Feb 22, 2014
2,475
That’s very true about Tony Benn. In his latter years he was loved all round as an ultra intelligent man of integrity, with a lifetime steeped in parliamentary and British living history. Before that his enemies were not just the Daily Mail and ‘the Establishment’ ... the Dennis Healey and James Callaghan dominant wing of the Labour Party loathed his maverick left wing agenda.

Harold Wilson famously said the he was leading a Socialist Revolution with a Czarist cabinet! Love that quote.There were so many of them.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Harold Wilson famously said the he was leading a Socialist Revolution with a Czarist cabinet! Love that quote.There were so many of them.

Tony Benn produced a great person in Hilary. He reminds me of Frank Field in that he’s a social democrat, without the angry class warrior traits of so many others. The key thing is, someone like him would win so many more votes from middle England. The angry left and disenchanted 22 year olds don’t give the numbers to get 326 MP’s elected.
 



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