[Albion] Palace Rivalry: when will the Media NOT...

portlock seagull · Mar 10, 2019

...start by banging on about the origins of, how odd it is, blah blah bloody blah EVERYTIME we play them? :annoyed:

It’s starting to get slightly annoying now. Even Martians know, yet the media approach like it’s some sort of news scoop whenever we play each other. In other news, bears’ shit in woods...

Bakero · Mar 10, 2019

And when will they look at a map and notice that in fact Sussex and Croydon are fairly close. They don't bang on about a lack of geographical connection between Norwich and Ipswich or Cardiff and Swansea.

pasty · Mar 10, 2019

At least Jonathan Pearce got the point on MOTD last night, mentioning the M23 goes neither to Brighton nor Croydon, and that fans hate the term.

Wilko · Mar 10, 2019

Bakero said:
And when will they look at a map and notice that in fact Sussex and Croydon are fairly close. They don't bang on about a lack of geographical connection between Norwich and Ipswich or Cardiff and Swansea.

Had this discussion with so many people before. Many a time people have said surely Southampton or Bournemouth is nearer, northerners in particular seem to think the south coast is a little 50 mile stretch of land.

pasty · Mar 10, 2019

Bakero said:
And when will they look at a map and notice that in fact Sussex and Croydon are fairly close. They don't bang on about a lack of geographical connection between Norwich and Ipswich or Cardiff and Swansea.

Just out of interest, I looked them up, and you make a very good point.

According to googlemaps:

Cardiff City Stadium to Liberty Stadium 43.4 miles
Portman Road to Carrow Road 44.4 miles
Amex to Selhurst 46.0 miles

heathgate · Mar 10, 2019

pasty said:
Just out of interest, I looked them up, and you make a very good point.

According to googlemaps:

Cardiff City Stadium to Liberty Stadium 43.4 miles
Portman Road to Carrow Road 44.4 miles
Amex to Selhurst 46.0 miles

The 'as the crow flies' distance is 37 miles... 45 if driving.

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Tom Hark Preston Park · Mar 10, 2019

portlock seagull said:
...start by banging on about the origins of, how odd it is, blah blah bloody blah EVERYTIME we play them?

It’s starting to get slightly annoying now. Even Martians know, yet the media approach like it’s some sort of news scoop whenever we play each other. In other news, bears’ shit in woods...

I guess viewers need reminding outside of the pantomime season that it's actually a thing.

Face it, as rivalries go, it's pretty pound shop.

Superphil · Mar 10, 2019

Tom Hark said:
I guess viewers need reminding outside of the pantomime season that it's actually a thing.

Face it, as rivalries go, it's pretty pound shop.

Five Pound shop wasn’t it?

Jam The Man · Mar 10, 2019

In terms of head to head it’s also one of closest (if not THE closest) in terms of our wins vs their wins.

Jim Van Winkle · Mar 10, 2019

It doesn’t help that the narrative of football beginning in 1992 has been peddled by the Premier League and media since its inception. Any mention of football pre 1992 is seen as sacrilege.

el punal · Mar 10, 2019

We have a rivalry with Palace - a bitter one at that, but it is NOT a derby by definition i.e. two teams competing from the same local district. That would apply to Liverpool and Everton, or Celtic and Rangers, Brum and Villa. You could stretch a point and say Norwich and Ipswich as, geographically, they are both in East Anglia.

But us and Palace, the M23 derby? Do me a favour! That is just some overhyped media label, almost as bad as the Dockyard derby between Portsmouth and Plymouth. :rant:

Green Cross Code Man · Mar 10, 2019

Have noticed Sky doing a lot of '2nd City Derby' as a description for Birmingham and Villa. They really are desperate for a stupid soundbite.

Wozza · Mar 10, 2019

Green Cross Code Man said:
Have noticed Sky doing a lot of '2nd City Derby' as a description for Birmingham and Villa. They really are desperate for a stupid soundbite.

Yes, it's blatantly the West Midlands derby.

Green Cross Code Man · Mar 10, 2019

Wozza said:
Yes, it's blatantly the West Midlands derby.

Haha!

wakeytom · Mar 10, 2019

portlock seagull said:
...start by banging on about the origins of, how odd it is, blah blah bloody blah EVERYTIME we play them?

It’s starting to get slightly annoying now. Even Martians know, yet the media approach like it’s some sort of news scoop whenever we play each other. In other news, bears’ shit in woods...

Because many neutrals dont even know its a rivalry and when they find out it is need to be told why as its not very obvious

Rogero · Mar 10, 2019

It is good to have a main rival though. It would be strange without one and very unloved.

dangull · Mar 10, 2019

Rogero said:
It is good to have a main rival though. It would be strange without one and very unloved.

Like Bournemouth?

dangull · Mar 10, 2019

For Brighton it makes geographic sense. For Palace there are a lot of London clubs closer to them.

*Gullsworth* · Mar 10, 2019

Jam The Man said:
In terms of head to head it’s also one of closest (if not THE closest) in terms of our wins vs their wins.

40 to 36 in our favour ............we are the masters of the A23

lawros left foot · Mar 10, 2019

dangull said:
For Brighton it makes geographic sense. For Palace there are a lot of London clubs closer to them.

The only London teams bothered about Palace, are Charlton and Millwall, and Millwall probably hate West Ham more.

So, if not us, then Palace are stuck with Charlton.

Maybe, the thinking behind it is that Charlton wouldn’t do the double over them.

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