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crodonilson

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Jan 17, 2005
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Sorry if fixtures but there was a big announcement from Scotland over the weekend, accompanied by the excellent Dua Lipa track of the same name IFAB announced new rules to be implemented from next season.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11652949/handball-rules-among-those-amended-by-international-fa-board

1. Accidental handball goals will be disallowed regardless of intent
2. Handball will be given if it strikes an arm beyond the body's natural silhouette
3. Attackers banned from walls at free kicks
4. Substituted players must leave by the nearest touchline or goal line or face a yellow card
5. Goalkeepers need only have one foot on the goal line at penalties, their other foot can be in a place of their choosing
6. Red and yellow cards to be shown to dissenting team officials depending on seriousness of dissent and who it is directed at.
7. At set pieces one player from both sides must be outside of the attacking penalty box
8. Managers and coaches will not be allowed to go out of their technical areas without prior permission (written or verbal) whilst the game is in play.
 
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Gazwag

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Mar 4, 2004
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4. Substituted players must leave by the nearest touchline or goal line or face a yellow card

Best one

7. At set pieces one player from both sides must be outside of the attacking penalty box

Not sure what this one is on about
 


Munkfish

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May 1, 2006
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1,2 and 4 all make sense, 4 however is clearly the best change.

7 what the hell does even mean, considering most teams will leave their goalkeeper back this just means the defending team have to leave a player outside the box, what an odd law, makes it just another thing a ref and his team need to keep an eye out for, WHY?
 


edna krabappel

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Jul 7, 2003
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Sorry if fixturers but there was a big announcement from Scotland over the weekend, accompied by the excellent Dua Lipa track of the same name IFAB announced new rules to be implemented from next season.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11652949/handball-rules-among-those-amended-by-international-fa-board

1. Accidental handball goals will be disallowed regardless of intent
2. Handball will be given if it strikes an arm beyond the body's natural silhouette
3. Attackers banned from walls at free kicks
4. Substituted players must leave by the nearest touchline or goal line or face a yellow card
5. Goalkeepers need only have one foot on the goalline at penalties, their other foot can be a place of their choosing
6. Red and yellow cards to be shown to dissenting team officials depending on seriousness of dissent and who it is directed at.
7. At set pieces one player from both sides must be outside of the attacking penalty box

Can't see there was a need for all of these, but there you go. Generally, a goal scored with a hand gets disallowed anyway if the officials see it, as they don't want the controversy so they just assume it was deliberate. Not sure that "rule" will make much difference, although the interpretation of handballs all over the pitch will now come down to whether somebody's arm it outside the "natural silhouette" of the body, rather than intent.

The substitution rule (3) is great in theory, but in practice, we all know that instead of the player due to be subbed sneakily making his way over to the furthest point on the pitch prior to the board going up, he'll simply make his way to the centre spot and amble slowly back towards the incoming player on the half way line, checking his socks, wincing slightly due to a sudden mystery twinge, seeking out every passing team mate for a handshake, passing a quick instruction to the centre half, and turning to applaud the fans, exactly the same as they do now.

Re (2): I wondered how they would enforce this. It seems no attacking player will be permitted to be within one yard of the defensive wall. Again: doesn't seem entirely practical, as defenders will creep towards them anyway, as they always do.
 




edna krabappel

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The best rule they had was the experiment a few years ago in the Football League when players who gobbed off at the referee following a decision against them, found the free kick moved ten yards forward.

Sadly, that rule was soon abolished, however, because it would have meant upsetting Premier League players like John Terry who felt they should be permitted to call a referee a ****ing **** whenever they damn well felt like it.
 


Postman Pat

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Jul 24, 2007
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The other one they just mentioned on the channel is that there will be no rebounds from penalties, if the ball hits the post or goes to the attacker from the keeper, play will be stopped.

Wont see anymore of the likes of Dunk's challenge on the rebound.
 


drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
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The other one they just mentioned on the channel is that there will be no rebounds from penalties, if the ball hits the post or goes to the attacker from the keeper, play will be stopped.

Wont see anymore of the likes of Dunk's challenge on the rebound.

Isn't that more to do with penalty shoot outs?
 




Kalimantan Gull

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Aug 13, 2003
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Central Borneo / the Lizard
4. Substituted players must leave by the nearest touchline or goal line or face a yellow card

Best one

7. At set pieces one player from both sides must be outside of the attacking penalty box

Not sure what this one is on about

1,2 and 4 all make sense, 4 however is clearly the best change.

7 what the hell does even mean, considering most teams will leave their goalkeeper back this just means the defending team have to leave a player outside the box, what an odd law, makes it just another thing a ref and his team need to keep an eye out for, WHY?

4 seems pointless. They already add 30 seconds for each substitution in injury time, but even the slowest of slow walks from the opposite side of the pitch takes less than 30 seconds, so what is the point of the change?

If a player is being subbed because of injury you don't want him to have to walk all the way round the pitch. You also shouldn't have to make an away team player walk the whole way round in front of the home team fans, especially if its a heated game or derby where there is always the risk of confrontations.

Not sure that one has been thought out
 




Kalimantan Gull

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Aug 13, 2003
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1. Accidental handball goals will be disallowed regardless of intent

- thought that had always been the case, well you live and learn. Not sure I can remember a single accidental handball goal (on that didn't have the opposition team and pundits screaming for handball)

2. Handball will be given if it strikes an arm beyond the body's natural silhouette

- makes sense to finally have a definition, although its quite narrow so going to have more penalties this way

3. Attackers banned from walls at free kicks

- define 'wall' ? standing 1 foot in front? 2 feet? standing next to the wall?

4. Substituted players must leave by the nearest touchline or goal line or face a yellow card

- this had already been dealt with by adding 30 seconds per substitution to injury time, bit kneejerk if you ask me

5. Goalkeepers need only have one foot on the goal line at penalties, their other foot can be in a place of their choosing

- see if this gets enforced as right now their whole body is usually a foot or two in front of the line when the ball is kicked

6. Red and yellow cards to be shown to dissenting team officials depending on seriousness of dissent and who it is directed at.

- already in place? what else are people sent off for? but never seen a yellow given to team officials I suppose

7. At set pieces one player from both sides must be outside of the attacking penalty box

- a player from the attacking side is out of the box by definition, so basically means that defending teams can't put everyone in there. Don't like that rule, too fiddly. Teams should be able to put their players wherever they like, offside rule notwithstanding.
 




rippleman

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Oct 18, 2011
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Now the rule change that should have been brought in is that a player who requires treatment following a challenge for which a free kick has been awarded to that player is NOT required to leave the pitch.
 


Nobby

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Sep 29, 2007
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VAR will overrule all this anyway in the Premier League next season. FARCE

Imagine Saturday

I was running up and down the aisle in West Upper after Andone’s goal.

Next season I’ll be standing watching out to see if the ref has put his finger in his ear.
 






Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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VAR will overrule all this anyway in the Premier League next season. FARCE

Imagine Saturday

I was running up and down the aisle in West Upper after Andone’s goal.

Next season I’ll be standing watching out to see if the ref has put his finger in his ear.
That's not what's happened in the cup games when a team's scored. Most goals won't get overturned and we'll get used to celebrating. Also, you can generally see if there's anything that might have been contentious, and celebrations need to be on hold.
 


edna krabappel

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Law 12- Fouls & Misconduct

Sending-Off Offences

A player is sent off and shown the red card if he commits any of the following offences:

1. is guilty of serious foul play
2. is guilty of violent conduct
3. spits at an opponent or any other person
4. denies the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area)
5. denies an obvious goal-scoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player’s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick
6. uses offensive, insulting or abusive language
7. receives a second yellow card in the same match
8. tackles or attempts to tackle Wilfried Zaha
 


Exile

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Aug 10, 2014
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5. denies an obvious goal-scoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player’s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick

???

Have they removed the 'new' double-punishment rule, then?
 


Official Old Man

Uckfield Seagull
Aug 27, 2011
8,486
Brighton
The penalty thing is confusing. From what I've read it seems that at a penalty in normal play, once taken play stops. No rebounds.
From marca-
1. There will be no rebounds from penalties
Play will stop for a restart if a penalty is saved or hits the post, meaning there will be no chance to follow up and score from rebounds, meaning players will no longer need to line up on the edge of the area.

So how do they restart the game?
 






Exile

Objective but passionate
Aug 10, 2014
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5. denies an obvious goal-scoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player’s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick

???

Have they removed the 'new' double-punishment rule, then?

Double punishment rule is only for genuine attempts to win the ball, deliberate fouls or handball is still a red.

Well, yes. But that isn't what point 5 above, says, is it?
 



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