[Albion] Is it time for back to basics?

Tiptop24 · Feb 26, 2019

4-4-1-1
Conceded possession. Sit behind the ball. Minimal chances created, but play to not lose. Not great watch, but seemed effective.

4-3-3
Possession based play, creates a bunch of chances, but leaves us exposed at the back. Enjoyable to watch, but incredibly frustrating at the lack of chances taken.

I vote back to 4-4-1-1 with bissy as our attacking midfielder.

Wilko · Feb 26, 2019

Tiptop24 said:
4-4-1-1
Conceded possession. Sit behind the ball. Minimal chances created, but play to not lose. Not great watch, but seemed effective.

4-3-3
Possession based play, creates a bunch of chances, but leaves us exposed at the back. Enjoyable to watch, but incredibly frustrating at the lack of chances taken.

I vote back to 4-4-1-1 with bissy as our attacking midfielder.

Very surprised we did not return to 4411 tonight actually.

Jakeg · Feb 26, 2019

Pretty sure we started with 4-4-1-1, Hughton then changed back to 4-3-3 after about 20 minutes. After that we looked much better

hans kraay fan club · Feb 26, 2019

Wilko said:
Very surprised we did not return to 4411 tonight actually.

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We did! And got overrun in midfield.

Sussex Nomad · Feb 26, 2019

Jakeg said:
Pretty sure we started with 4-4-1-1, Hughton then changed back to 4-3-3 after about 20 minutes. After that we looked much better

Was definitely 4-3-3 from the start, we were just bloody awful for the first 15 minutes.

hans kraay fan club · Feb 26, 2019

Sussex Nomad said:
Was definitely 4-3-3 from the start, we were just bloody awful for the first 15 minutes.

It absolutely wasn’t.

Groß was behind Murray and we were getting destroyed. Hughton called him over to have a chat in a break in play, and he fell back to make a 3, on about 18 minutes.

Don Tmatter · Feb 26, 2019

Never going to win PL matches by missing the 2 chances Murray had tonight.

Sussex Nomad · Feb 26, 2019

hans kraay fan club said:
It absolutely wasn’t.

Groß was behind Murray and we were getting destroyed. Hughton called him over to have a chat in a break in play, and he fell back to make a 3, on about 18 minutes.

Ok well they called it wrong on the tv, and I saw it wrong. You are obviously correct.

Luke93 · Feb 26, 2019

Sussex Nomad said:
Ok well they called it wrong on the tv, and I saw it wrong. You are obviously correct.

Most definitely 4-4-1-1 to start the game.

Sussex Nomad · Feb 26, 2019

Luke93 said:
Most definitely 4-4-1-1 to start the game.

Ok

Luke93 · Feb 26, 2019

Sussex Nomad said:
Ok

Interesting response.

Were you at the game tonight? Must've missed seeing Groß playing behind Murray, making runs beyond him and into the channels.

BensGrandad · Feb 26, 2019

hans kraay fan club said:
We did! And got overrun in midfield.

I really dont understand what you watch as at no time was we over run in midfield which was our strong point and pointed out by the stream commentator, where we were dominating play.. So much so that they took off their creative midfielder and brought on Mendy to try to stem our midfield. Their strength was in their counter attacks to the front men.

Sussex Nomad · Feb 26, 2019

Luke93 said:
Interesting response.

Were you at the game tonight? Must've missed seeing Groß playing behind Murray, making runs beyond him and into the channels.

Yeah, you do know you can play a three man midfield and get beyond the striker?

hans kraay fan club · Feb 26, 2019

BensGrandad said:
I really dont understand what you watch as at no time was we over run in midfield which was our strong point and pointed out by the stream commentator, where we were dominating play.. So much so that they took off their creative midfielder and brought on Mendy to try to stem our midfield. Their strength was in their counter attacks to the front men.

They did that with ten minutes to go. This discussion is about how we STARTED the game.

BensGrandad · Feb 26, 2019

Forget the talk of changing formations just get the attitude and application by the players right and all will be well.

Luke93 · Feb 26, 2019

Sussex Nomad said:
Yeah, you do know you can play a three man midfield and get beyond the striker?

Of course, but the previous explanation of the formation being 4-4-1-1 didn't work.

Caveman · Feb 26, 2019

BensGrandad said:
Forget the talk of changing formations just get the attitude and application by the players right and all will be well.

And some of the fans..? &#55358;&#56623;

Bold Seagull · Feb 26, 2019

BensGrandad said:
Forget the talk of changing formations just get the attitude and application by the players right and all will be well.

Agree. In fact, nothing wrong with the attitude or application either, just need to cut out the errors, and finish! Easy. :smile:

beorhthelm · Feb 26, 2019

the problem we have had this and last year is lack of pace to make 4-4-1-1 work. Murray ends up isolate and ineffectual, defending doesnt switch fast enough, move forward quickly and so opposition can regroup. needs better/simpler passing from DM role and more dynamic no10 (Gros as gifted as he is, is not right), and midfield that move back and forth. or 4-3-3 more emphasis on wide play, are we then too predicatible putting in (poor) crosses? feels like one or two key player changes and either could work, just not got the personel right now, so we regress to defensive 4-5-1.

Sussex Nomad · Feb 26, 2019

Luke93 said:
Of course, but the previous explanation of the formation being 4-4-1-1 didn't work.

As I said originally, ok. I see no reason to argue the point. I will await the cocky reply, obviously.

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