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[Politics] Labour suspend Derek Hatton









Pavilionaire

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Further evidence of Labour's mismanagement.
 


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Mods merge threads? Albeit this piece of massive cockwomblery and thunderkhaantery is probs worth a thread of its own. If Keir Hardy were alive today....
 








neilbard

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Weststander

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The tweet is not anti Semitic.

Asking a race of people in as far flung places as the UK/Liverpool, to openly condemn the actions of the Israeli government. And if anyone within that targeted racial grouping doesn’t, then they have no decency apparently. It’s not his business to target a race, and adds to the ramped up anti semitic hatred building on the left and right. The motor mouth should be far more careful, but that’s a alien concept to Hatton.
 


Hampster Gull

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The Labour leader and supporters are Trots, of course they let this guy in. Only the MP leavers have forced the racism issue.
 


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Asking a race of people in as far flung places as the UK/Liverpool, to openly condemn the actions of the Israeli government. And if anyone within that targeted racial grouping doesn’t, then they have no decency apparently. It’s not his business to target a race, and adds to the ramped up anti semitic hatred building on the left and right. The motor mouth should be far more careful, but that’s a alien concept to Hatton.

Indeed. The tweet is snide. The snidery is racist. Fact.
 




knocky1

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Asking a race of people in as far flung places as the UK/Liverpool, to openly condemn the actions of the Israeli government. And if anyone within that targeted racial grouping doesn’t, then they have no decency apparently. It’s not his business to target a race, and adds to the ramped up anti semitic hatred building on the left and right. The motor mouth should be far more careful, but that’s a alien concept to Hatton.

I don’t agree with Saudi foreign policy and murders but that doesn’t make me an Arab hating islamophobe. Nothing wrong with questioning a state’s actions.
 


GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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Hatton is a nasty piece of work - Labour is well rid of him. But the notion that criticising some of the Israeli army's bloody incursions into Palestine is anti-Semitic is just bollox. To the Palestinians, the Israelis are bad neighbours (and the feeling is mutual). And for the record, lobbing shells into Jerusalem is not acceptable behaviour by the Palestinians either - and criticising that isn't racism against the Arabs any more than condemning Israeli expansionism into Arab lands is anti-semitic!
 


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I don’t agree with Saudi foreign policy and murders but that doesn’t make me an Arab hating islamophobe. Nothing wrong with questioning a state’s actions.

Totally agree with you.

But Hatton targeted a specific race, as having to comdemn to have any decency. Why not keep race out of it?
 
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Weststander

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Hatton is a nasty piece of work - Labour is well rid of him. But the notion that criticising some of the Israeli army's bloody incursions into Palestine is anti-Semitic is just bollox. To the Palestinians, the Israelis are bad neighbours (and the feeling is mutual). And for the record, lobbing shells into Jerusalem is not acceptable behaviour by the Palestinians either - and criticising that isn't racism against the Arabs any more than condemning Israeli expansionism into Arab lands is anti-semitic!

But Hatton widened it to Jews per se. So that any Jewish person in the UK lacks decency if they don’t condemn.
 


darkwolf666

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Nov 8, 2015
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Hatton is a nasty piece of work - Labour is well rid of him. But the notion that criticising some of the Israeli army's bloody incursions into Palestine is anti-Semitic is just bollox. To the Palestinians, the Israelis are bad neighbours (and the feeling is mutual). And for the record, lobbing shells into Jerusalem is not acceptable behaviour by the Palestinians either - and criticising that isn't racism against the Arabs any more than condemning Israeli expansionism into Arab lands is anti-semitic!

Well said that poster. Hatton is old news to be frank, however this story has done yet more damage to Labour who now don’t appear capable of organising a jolly good drink in your local brewery!
 


GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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But Hatton widened it to Jews per se. So that any Jewish person in the UK lacks decency if they don’t condemn.

Not bothered about Hatton per se; I regard him as a nasty piece of work and I don't like him or his views, end of. Just pointing out there is a huge difference between criticising Israeli behaviour towards their neighbours and anti-Semitism.
 


Lower West Stander

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Mar 25, 2012
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Well said that poster. Hatton is old news to be frank, however this story has done yet more damage to Labour who now don’t appear capable of organising a jolly good drink in your local brewery!

Anyone with a memory of the 80s will remember that Derek Hatton was one of the most dangerous, hypocritical politicians of the time. He espoused socialist values, nearly bankrupted the city of Liverpool while driving round in a Mercedes with a personalised number plate. Has no problem with now being a millionaire property developer either.

A true throwback to the bad, bad old days. Even for modern day Corbynisra snowflakes, he should be seen as an absolute disgrace.


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GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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Gloucester
Well said that poster. Hatton is old news to be frank, however this story has done yet more damage to Labour who now don’t appear capable of organising a jolly good drink in your local brewery!
Equally old news (but bad news all the same, just like Hatton) for Labour is Militant Tendency, even if it has now re-branded as Momentum.
 



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