Blues Rock DJ
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Yes it's a tragic accident, but hand on heart, the guy didn't kick a ball in anger for Cardiff, do not get the fuss. Nantes must be due the fee, as we say on here several times, football is now a business.
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[Football] Nantes FC and Cardiff
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ferring seagull
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- Dec 30, 2010
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This could end up as a complete shit storm !
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
You have to hope that both parties can eventually get round the table and sort this out face to face rather than this all being played out through the media ..which just sours the recent memorials of the player who died
No it’s not. Nantes had sold Sala to Cardiff. The deal was done. What happens after that is nothing to do with Nantes. While a Nantes player Nantes would have insurance that they could claim against. As soon as the deal to sell him was complete Nantes would no longer have insurance for him but Cardiff would have. Therefore Cardiff pay Nantes and claim on their insurance.
drew
Drew
This is a contractual dispute and Cardiff have already intimated that they are looking at the small print which strongly suggests they are looking to get out of the deal. Nantes sold the player so Cardiff should honour that agreement. If they subsequently find fault with the contract then deal with that through the courts. There are two issues, the contract between Nantes and Cardiff and then the insurance contract that Cardiff have in force. If Cardiff are looking to get out of paying the fee, that would suggest to me they have possibly already identified a potential problem with a claim under their insurance.
blue-shifted
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Agree with people who have said the following.
This should have been done behind closed doors and not using words such as demand
Cardiff surely have to pay Nantes and Bordeaux the money they owe
There's unlikely to be a significant delay in the insurance payout due to the reputational risk of the insurer
I don't agree that it's necessarily the agent who arranged a flight who is at fault. As far as we know, the plane hasn't failed any safety tests and the pilot was correctly licensed.
Total speculation on this (as I don't know whether football clubs set up their insurance collectively or for individual players), but it's also possible that Cardiff were setting the insurance up but the policy hadn't started yet. This could be because they hadn't had time to verify any medical etc details about the player in order for the insurer to individually underwrite the risk. Lots of life insurance has a limited amount of cover available for death through accident before policy starts, but this would totally depend on the insurer. If they have group insurance for all playing staff, then full cover should be in place.
This should have been done behind closed doors and not using words such as demand
Cardiff surely have to pay Nantes and Bordeaux the money they owe
There's unlikely to be a significant delay in the insurance payout due to the reputational risk of the insurer
I don't agree that it's necessarily the agent who arranged a flight who is at fault. As far as we know, the plane hasn't failed any safety tests and the pilot was correctly licensed.
Total speculation on this (as I don't know whether football clubs set up their insurance collectively or for individual players), but it's also possible that Cardiff were setting the insurance up but the policy hadn't started yet. This could be because they hadn't had time to verify any medical etc details about the player in order for the insurer to individually underwrite the risk. Lots of life insurance has a limited amount of cover available for death through accident before policy starts, but this would totally depend on the insurer. If they have group insurance for all playing staff, then full cover should be in place.
GT49er
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Yes, but if that £14M is bonuses for appearances, performances, getting promotion, etc. they obviously won't apply.
Sidwell Jnr
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- Jan 16, 2019
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Yeah I read that McKay arranged the flight via messages with his son (who is a Cardiff player) and said there wouldn't be any charge for the flight.
https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/age...e-exchange-prior-to/w2vwnn9s9h2u15faa74xr1pn8
HAILSHAM SEAGULL
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- Nov 9, 2009
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But its not just about Nantes and Cardiff and the £15 million transfer fee
Brokers fee, Willie Mckay.
Bordeaux, sell on fee.
Sala's agent's commission,
Nantes owner was due a fee according to The Mail on Sunday.
This is going to get very messy
Brokers fee, Willie Mckay.
Bordeaux, sell on fee.
Sala's agent's commission,
Nantes owner was due a fee according to The Mail on Sunday.
This is going to get very messy
Sussex Nomad
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I shall, a little later, try and find the article, this wasn't anything to do with the extras.
afters
Well-known member
Be interested to see a French version of the "demand" the words demander and commander are frequently mis-used in english. Personally, this has everything to do with insurance, they should all have kept it quiet....
ferring seagull
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- Dec 30, 2010
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So depends upon whether or not Cardiff ( it was certainly their shout ) had activated insurance cover by the time of the accident. So either way, Cardiff are still obligated to pay for the transfer. Interesting !
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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some saying they should have not done anything, Nantes dont really have a choice if they have bills to pay. some say it should have been done quietly, perhaps it was until some journalist poked his nose in. reading the article, it may not even be contentious, party A has "demanded payment" - technical term, party B is says they'll honour contract but checking details. there may not even be a story here.
I'm guessing Cardiff have leaked this story, so any accusations of disrespecting the dead should only be levelled at them. All Nantes have done is sent a reminder that payment was overdue, and a further reminder containing the appropriate legal language in case the situation escalates after that was ignored.
Ninja Elephant
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- Feb 16, 2009
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In what way is Nantes' behaviour appropriate? They could wait for the body to be recovered, no? I know it's a lot money to them, and to Bordeaux, but do they really need to be panhandling already?
West Upper Seagull
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This is exactly what I thought - would they naturally update their player insurance the same day the player signs ?
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