How can they be 10 points behind the Tories 
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Nobby
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- Sep 29, 2007
- 2,618
No but all stories are evil aren’t they?.
Name me one that isn’t.
It’s a fecking shame that those b*st*rds are somehow still intact.
Them’s the party that are leading us into this shambles
Sussex Nomad
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And still lost.
- Jul 10, 2003
- 25,857
Personally I'd like to see both the Labour and Conservative parties break down into their various 'factions'. (And if this had happened a few years back we wouldn't be in the complete clusterf*** we are at the moment).
That way people could vote for a group that represents their opinions far more accurately than these two monolithic conglomerates that are created by our FPTP system. Who knows, it could even usher in a period of 'grown-up' long term coalition government rather than the current ridiculous swing from one side to another based on fractional changes in voting patterns.
That way people could vote for a group that represents their opinions far more accurately than these two monolithic conglomerates that are created by our FPTP system. Who knows, it could even usher in a period of 'grown-up' long term coalition government rather than the current ridiculous swing from one side to another based on fractional changes in voting patterns.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
How can they be 10 points behind the Tories
They're not
Labour got 40% of the vote at the last General Election, one of the highest in our history. We'd have won if Scottish Labour hadn't been so useless (advocating people vote Tory against the SNP for instance)
We have the biggest membership of any party in Europe. If there is a new style SDP that will split the vote and keep the Tories in for ever in the first past the post system, which is what some of you want, isn't it? Just be honest and stop trying to be all 'moderate' and 'reasonable'
It's ludicrous to say we have 'stolen' the party - the centrists borrowed it, we've got it back!
I do find the right wing bias on NSC amusing given that we have wiped the floor with the Tories in all the local seats and even my local East Worthing and Shoreham is now a marginal. I guess it's that old chestnut, 'age'. Never understood people becoming less radical as they get older, surely we should respond to what we see around us, and what I see is division, poverty, homelessness, complacency on one hand, misery on the other........
Hopefully the Blarites will split from labour and then we will have a proper marxist to vote for .
London Irish
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Lord so much cack in one post, monumental effort
London Irish
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How can they be 10 points behind the Tories
Stop reading the Beano mate for news
London Irish
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They deprived the Tories of Cameron’s 2015 majority, that’s not losing
Sussex Nomad
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Oh ok, I had no idea Corbyn was PM.
Labour party break-up ?
Eh? iirc he one a majority of twelve.
Edit, I’ve re read what you said and now get what your on about.
Eh? iirc he one a majority of twelve.
Edit, I’ve re read what you said and now get what your on about.
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As apposed to the Socialist Worker?
Hampster Gull
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- Dec 22, 2010
- 13,462
Following the split Labour were out of power for 16 years. The party would be crazy to keep on their momentum line (like their 1980s predecessors) and ostracise the centre ground within their party
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
And clueless May lost it in 2017 as she is as thick as all the Tories on NSC
Sussex Nomad
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Originally he had to form a coalition and then gained a majority in the next GE, a trend followed by May, but let's not get in the way of facts. Corbyn is PM and we are not in Brexit.
Sussex Nomad
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I’ll give you a fact, Corbyn will never be PM.
Sussex Nomad
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I'll take that.
And it will be shrill, and ignoring it will be more-ish.
ps anyone who say all politicians are the same is either an anarchist (anti all politicians) or a liar (hoping a bit of mud will stick on whatever, if anything, emerges from the centre left) aka a committed blinkered party-loyal tory. Who would have known?
Agreed, but Mrs Balls might if she leads the New Labour Party.