Hillian1
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Any on here?
Is there any other way of replacing B12 without adding yeast supplements?
Asking for a friend obvs.
Is there any other way of replacing B12 without adding yeast supplements?
Asking for a friend obvs.
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[Misc] Veganism
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FatSuperman
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- Feb 25, 2016
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I don’t worry about it, but should probably take a supplement just to be safe.
Most plant based spreads and milks are fortified with it, plus many cereals. Also lots in nutritional yeast and marmite is a decent source. I just did a rough calculation and probably have about half the amount in milk from tea/coffee. There isn’t much in plants, unless you are eating organic muddy plants.
Probably better to get a supplement unless you happen to have a lot of algae in your diet
Most plant based spreads and milks are fortified with it, plus many cereals. Also lots in nutritional yeast and marmite is a decent source. I just did a rough calculation and probably have about half the amount in milk from tea/coffee. There isn’t much in plants, unless you are eating organic muddy plants.
Probably better to get a supplement unless you happen to have a lot of algae in your diet
Veganism is not good for the planet. Grassland is the world’s most important carbon sink existong only to graze farmed animals and would be ploughed up if the world went vegan. This would be catastrophic for climate change. Less intensive and organic farming relies on a mixed (livestock and crops) farming system to maintain soil fertility. Veganism would lead to an increase in the use of chemical fertilisers and pesticides and a deterioration in soil health.
Sadly the vegan society and others have politicised their beliefs by turning them into a campaign. As always, politics leads to only the telling of half the story and only the half that suits your cause.
Sadly the vegan society and others have politicised their beliefs by turning them into a campaign. As always, politics leads to only the telling of half the story and only the half that suits your cause.
I’ve inadvertently found myself going a day or two without eating meat recently despite having lived my whole life as a ravinous carnivore. There’s a Vegitarian Indian restaurant not far from me which features in the Michelin guide and it’s absolutely incredible - it really opened my eyes as to what can be done without meat.
I honestly don’t have any strong, moral feelings about it, and if you’d have asked me a few years ago to go a week without meat I’d have balked at the idea, however I reckon I could easily do a year now if I had to.
Veganism is a step too far for me though. When you start to strip out versatile foods like cheese, milk, and eggs it starts to limit your options too much. Is it really healthy for you at that stage either - I genuinely don’t know. As someone who weight trains, the lack of protein would concern me. Yes, you can supplement around the issue, but I don’t believe your diet should be built around supplements.
I honestly don’t have any strong, moral feelings about it, and if you’d have asked me a few years ago to go a week without meat I’d have balked at the idea, however I reckon I could easily do a year now if I had to.
Veganism is a step too far for me though. When you start to strip out versatile foods like cheese, milk, and eggs it starts to limit your options too much. Is it really healthy for you at that stage either - I genuinely don’t know. As someone who weight trains, the lack of protein would concern me. Yes, you can supplement around the issue, but I don’t believe your diet should be built around supplements.
GingerBeerMan
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father_and_son
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I always follow the lead of Jimmy Carr...
"Whenever I host a dinner party I always make sure there is a vegetarian option ..
...they can f*ck off."
"Whenever I host a dinner party I always make sure there is a vegetarian option ..
...they can f*ck off."
Label not necessary. I eat what I want, when I want.
Pevenseagull
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- Jul 20, 2003
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beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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yes, except for electricity generation, transportation and industry. the vegan lobby really are succeeding in selling this idea meat is the worst thing for the evirnonment. when digging into data its complex, for instance termites produce vast amounts of methane as do rice fields. are we going to stop eating rice too? biggest greenhouse gas is water, what are we going to do about that?
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Come on.Clearly chopping down forests to grow grain to feed cattle is worse than maintaining rice paddies.
Pevenseagull
Anti-greed coalition
- Jul 20, 2003
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Large scale commercial almond milk and avocado production are spectacularly bad for bees.
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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which is worse misses the point. theres a significant affect from both, we focus on one while ignoring the other because of the vegan agenda.
Thunder Bolt
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As is chopping down forests to grow palm oil which is in lots of food stuffs, including vegan cheese.
https://thecornishlife.co.uk/10-things-youre-buying-probably-contain-palm-oil/
The more crops that have to be grown, to feed people, the less land there is.
All those chemicals that are needed to spray the crops to keep the insects and pests at bay.
Maybe we stop eating rice.
beorhthelm
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tell that to Asia.