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[Politics] How you think Brexit should look?
- Thread starter neilbard
- Start date
Kalimantan Gull
Well-known member
No. And really don't care about the rest. We're heading for either painful brexit or pointless brexit, and the people are foolish for choosing either
How does that work then?
So how do you keep the Irish border open but the other ones closed? What are you achieving in that scenario?
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
And to make it perfect-
studio150
Well-known member
Poorer Brexit or even poorer Brexit or very very very poorer Brexit given that Plan B will be same as Plan A.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 35,303
it will look like a blancmange
Billy the Fish
Technocrat
I'd be happy with this.
Looking at the votes, this suggests to me that if the same views are shared nationwide and in parliament, there will be no Brexit. Which is what I thought all along.
Imagine going to a Chinese restaurant with 20 mates, and being told that a meal can be had, but only one meal, and a majority must be in agreement what it should be.
**** that. I'd be off home. Fact.
Imagine going to a Chinese restaurant with 20 mates, and being told that a meal can be had, but only one meal, and a majority must be in agreement what it should be.
**** that. I'd be off home. Fact.
The people didn't choose either, they just chose Brexit.
nicko31
Well-known member
Unfortunately anything worth having is either a closed market or the EU got there first. Good luck...
oneillco
Well-known member
- Feb 13, 2013
- 1,259
Hahaha! And in the intervening 25 years while that gets sorted out we can go into a massive recession...marvellous
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 35,303
funny thing is this could be comment on being in the EU.
No it isn't. The analogy for being in the EU is that a group of 25 mates spend 30 years attempting to perfect a well balanced diet that includes core essentials that everyone needs to survive, plus an infinity of personal variation. Britain's role in this since the days of Thatcher is a strident voice demanding to contribute less to the budget while insisting we should ignore the diet altogether and gorge on cheap junkfood. All the others think we are a bit childish.
I actually think that around 40% of the population were ‘swing’ voters on the original vote.
The Leave campaign did an amazing job on turning more of those to leave (I won’t comment on how they did it).
Now that those 40% know what Brexit really entails, I’d imagine that very few of them have turned to leave. Instead, I’d wager that the vast majority of that 40% swing vote would now vote remain in an ‘informed’ referendum. It could be as much as a 70% Remain 30% Leave (although my money would be on 60%-40%).
This is exactly why Brexiteers fear another vote, they need to do everything to stop it because we all know it will kill Brexit dead.
The problem we have now is the original reason for holding an in/out EU referendum. It was done to unite the Conservation Party. Therefore, another referendum with the expected result could and would do irreparable harm to that party, in short, it would split it in two. For that single reason alone; there won’t be another referendum and we will Brexit despite a seemingly dramatic minority of 2019 voters wanting it.
Next steps? We have to avoid the Brexit that the tiny majority want. We could have a vote on that but it’s fair to assume that most remainers would want the closet relationship possible (Norway+). So I suspect, that will be the option Parliament votes for over the next month or so.
The two part referendum Reece-Mogg proposed before the process would have been the best way forward but people thought you could not negotiate with another vote to come. Sadly, we got the worst deal anyway.
pearl
Well-known member
no, move the tunnel to Stranraer/Larne