[Albion] Matt Ryan's position for the Palace penalty

maresfield seagull · Dec 5, 2018

Seemed very lop sided in a sort of Paul Cooper style to me
Not in the middle for those of you too young to remember , But favouring one side
almost tempting it to be put to his left
But he dived right ( the side he favoured )anyway
Is this down to video assessment of the opposition penalty takers?
Or had he just lost his bearings slightly?
Not a moan, after such a wonderful result / performance
Just an observation
Not seen it mentioned, so if I'm fixtured. So be it

Cowfold Seagull · Dec 5, 2018

I noticed that myself when l saw it played back today. Doubtless he had his reasons for taking up that position, and let's face it, keepers stand very little chance when it comes to saving penalties anyway, irrespective of all the researsh that they do.

Sheebo · Dec 5, 2018

Definitely a ploy to get in his head. Wasn’t a loss of bearings :lol:

redoubtable seagull · Dec 5, 2018

He did similar for Vardy’s penalty the other week. I thought it strange. It does not look too convincing from the North stand.

Motogull · Dec 5, 2018

I thought it was mind games. Hoping he'd cause it to be struck to his right by teasing him with more space to his left i.e. I'm hoping you to go to my left and that's where I'm going.

tigertim68 · Dec 5, 2018

He has not got close to one of the penalties against us this season

Acker79 · Dec 5, 2018

Year ago I did a golkeeping course run by John Keeley. It was one of the tactics suggested for penalties. It draws strikers to aim for the bigger area. But, strikers know that's why you're doing it and expect you to dive to the more exposed side, so aim for the smaller side, so you go for the smaller side. But goalkeepers can sometimes be expecting that and will dive to the smaller side so you should go to the more exposed side...

maresfield seagull · Dec 5, 2018

Very much in the react, rather than guess camp myself
If the penalty's good you have No chance anyway
But how many do we see that are saveable
If only the keeper hadn't dived early ?
As opposed to pens actually saved by diving early?

DJ NOBO · Dec 5, 2018

He’s been watching videos of the 83 cup final.
Gave it the Moseley

Wozza · Dec 6, 2018

maresfield seagull said:
Very much in the react, rather than guess camp myself

He's too short to reach the corners...

Easy 10 · Dec 6, 2018

I can't believe keepers still dive left against Harry Kane penalties.

He hits them bloody well to be fair, so even if the keeper goes the same way the chances of getting anything on them is minimal. But I was mildly irritated by Ryan flopping to his left this season when facing up to one. FFS, he ALWAYS hits them left.

Cowfold Seagull · Dec 6, 2018

With so many penalties being just hit down the middle, I often wonder why keepers even bother diving, Just stand where you are and you might get lucky.

HastingsSeagull · Dec 6, 2018

Glad it wasn't just my imagination

saafend_seagull · Dec 6, 2018

He hasn’t even got close to the 3/4 penalties we have faced this season. Got wrong way or not moved at all. Compared to last years 66% saving record (I think)

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sydney · Dec 6, 2018

Acker79 said:
Year ago I did a golkeeping course run by John Keeley. It was one of the tactics suggested for penalties. It draws strikers to aim for the bigger area. But, strikers know that's why you're doing it and expect you to dive to the more exposed side, so aim for the smaller side, so you go for the smaller side. But goalkeepers can sometimes be expecting that and will dive to the smaller side so you should go to the more exposed side...

rippleman · Dec 6, 2018

saafend_seagull said:
He hasn’t even got close to the 3/4 penalties we have faced this season. Got wrong way or not moved at all. Compared to last years 66% saving record (I think)

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No surprise and no worry at all for me.

The 66% save rate last season was a fluke. If a penalty is reasonably well taken, the keeper shouldn't be able to keep it out, if he does it is a bonus.

WATFORD zero · Dec 6, 2018

It was very obvious watching from the North that it was mind games. But I was expecting him to take a step just as the penalty was taken to put himself in the middle, but he didn't :shrug:

warmleyseagull · Dec 6, 2018

Cowfold Seagull said:
With so many penalties being just hit down the middle, I often wonder why keepers even bother diving, Just stand where you are and you might get lucky.

There was some research a while back (think it was Norwegian but can’t find it now) that said exactly that, or more correctly, from the taker’s perspective, that the most assured way of scoring is smashing down the middle.

But have you ever seen a penalty saved by a keeper on his feet; or even a keeper who stays on his feet? It is probably that you look completely useless as a keeper if you do nothing and ball is drilled in corner.

schmunk · Dec 6, 2018

warmleyseagull said:
There was some research a while back (think it was Norwegian but can’t find it now) that said exactly that, or more correctly, from the taker’s perspective, that the most assured way of scoring is smashing down the middle.

But have you ever seen a penalty saved by a keeper on his feet; or even a keeper who stays on his feet? It is probably that you look completely useless as a keeper if you do nothing and ball is drilled in corner.

I was going to post pretty much exactly this.

Fungus · Dec 6, 2018

warmleyseagull said:
There was some research a while back (think it was Norwegian but can’t find it now) that said exactly that, or more correctly, from the taker’s perspective, that the most assured way of scoring is smashing down the middle.

But have you ever seen a penalty saved by a keeper on his feet; or even a keeper who stays on his feet? It is probably that you look completely useless as a keeper if you do nothing and ball is drilled in corner.

So, useless keepers should do nothing and save the penalty! (I think)

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