[Help] Home security

DavidRyder · Oct 11, 2018

Hi NSCers,

Our community has been having some very dubious behaviour from strangers, today and the last few weeks. It has heightened my desire to look into home security.

Other than the usual CCTV, locks etc, do any NSCers have other tips that work well for home security?

Thanks

banjo · Oct 11, 2018

The Antikythera Mechanism · Oct 11, 2018

An ADT Police monitored alarm definitely deters burglars.

DavidRyder · Oct 11, 2018

The Antikythera Mechanism said:
An ADT Police monitored alarm definitely deters burglars.

Sounds interesting - how much does that service cost roughly?

The Antikythera Mechanism · Oct 11, 2018

DavidRyder said:
Sounds interesting - how much does that service cost roughly?

Installation depends on the size of your house. We’ve got door, window & movement sensors and a panic switch and it cost about £1,000 from memory, but that was 10 years ago. Monthly monitoring subscription if £40, which includes all maintenance, servicing etc. A temporary fault set off the panic alarm one day and the Police were here in 5 minutes, although there is no local police station.

banjo · Oct 11, 2018

https://www.adt.co.uk/home-security-packages/smart-home?source=google&medium=cpc&campaign=422777070&adgroup=29604789990&keyword=%2Bhome%20%2Bsecurity&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9OKCm7D-3QIVi-R3Ch02kAysEAAYASABEgJ8d_D_BwE

Still think a dog would be cheaper.

Badger Boy · Oct 11, 2018

I have an electronic locking system. All windows and doors are electronically locked at night or when I leave during the day. If someone were to be aware of my electronic locks and cut the electricity to the house, the backup generator kicks in. Theoretically, there is about a 5 second window of opportunity to force the door in that time.

Alternatively, you could just smash the window but that would be a bit of a giveaway.

Brian Parsons · Oct 11, 2018

banjo said:
https://www.adt.co.uk/home-security-packages/smart-home?source=google&medium=cpc&campaign=422777070&adgroup=29604789990&keyword=%2Bhome%20%2Bsecurity&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9OKCm7D-3QIVi-R3Ch02kAysEAAYASABEgJ8d_D_BwE

Still think a dog would be cheaper.

And a very hungry dog to boot.

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Weststander · Oct 11, 2018

A few of these will teach ‘em:

LamieRobertson · Oct 11, 2018

banjo said:
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Selfie?

banjo · Oct 11, 2018

LamieRobertson said:
Selfie?

Never had a dog, but grew up with German Shepard’s as my mum n dad had them. My mates were shit scared of them. So a good deterrent.

Weststander · Oct 11, 2018

The Antikythera Mechanism said:
Installation depends on the size of your house. We’ve got door, window & movement sensors and a panic switch and it cost about £1,000 from memory, but that was 10 years ago. Monthly monitoring subscription if £40, which includes all maintenance, servicing etc. A temporary fault set off the panic alarm one day and the Police were here in 5 minutes, although there is no local police station.

The excellent Swedish company Verisure are growing fast in the UK. Their smart system costs £42 per month I think, with a low installation cost. It covers 24/7 response and they communicate with occupiers by speaker in the event of a possible incident. Photo detectors throughout film incidents.

https://www.verisure.co.uk/lp/m/alarms-for-home.php?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIu6vLk-f-3QIV7pztCh1waQAAEAAYASAAEgIYFvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=COWw_Jbn_t0CFYMaGwod_qwBiw
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/verisure.co.uk

Nottseagull · Oct 11, 2018

The Antikythera Mechanism said:
£40, which includes all maintenance, servicing etc. A temporary fault set off the panic alarm one day and the Police were here in 5 minutes, although there is no local police station.

£40 p.m. is the sort of sum that you'd expect to pay for the company's own staff to attend. As they are relying on the vagaries of a police response , I think you are being ripped off. Also, police stations tend to be staffed by civilians nowadays. A patrol car is much more likely to be diverted than an officer jumping in a vehicle at the cop shop.

timbha · Oct 11, 2018

Nottseagull said:
£40 p.m. is the sort of sum that you'd expect to pay for the company's own staff to attend. As they are relying on the vagaries of police, I think you are being ripped off. Also, police stations tend to be staffed by civilians nowadays. A patrol car is much more likely to be diverted than an officer jumping in a vehicle at the cop shop.

I think the police withdrew from this service some years ago. Personally I’d be happier with a bunch of heavies sorting it out

Nottseagull · Oct 11, 2018

Weststander said:
The excellent Swedish company Verisure are growing fast in the UK. Their smart system costs £42 per month I think, with a low installation cost. It covers 24/7 response and they communicate with occupiers by speaker in the event of a possible incident. Photo detectors throughout film incidents.

https://www.verisure.co.uk/lp/m/alarms-for-home.php?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIu6vLk-f-3QIV7pztCh1waQAAEAAYASAAEgIYFvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=COWw_Jbn_t0CFYMaGwod_qwBiw
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/verisure.co.uk

Warning, that first URL brought up this on Android

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lost in london · Oct 11, 2018

DavidRyder said:
Hi NSCers,

Our community has been having some very dubious behaviour from strangers, today and the last few weeks. It has heightened my desire to look into home security.

Other than the usual CCTV, locks etc, do any NSCers have other tips that work well for home security?

Thanks

Move somewhere nice :wink:

PILTDOWN MAN · Oct 11, 2018

Weststander said:
The excellent Swedish company Verisure are growing fast in the UK. Their smart system costs £42 per month I think, with a low installation cost. It covers 24/7 response and they communicate with occupiers by speaker in the event of a possible incident. Photo detectors throughout film incidents.

https://www.verisure.co.uk/lp/m/alarms-for-home.php?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIu6vLk-f-3QIV7pztCh1waQAAEAAYASAAEgIYFvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=COWw_Jbn_t0CFYMaGwod_qwBiw
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/verisure.co.uk

So they can film you in your house

The Antikythera Mechanism · Oct 11, 2018

Nottseagull said:
£40 p.m. is the sort of sum that you'd expect to pay for the company's own staff to attend. As they are relying on the vagaries of a police response , I think you are being ripped off. Also, police stations tend to be staffed by civilians nowadays. A patrol car is much more likely to be diverted than an officer jumping in a vehicle at the cop shop.

Ripped off? Less than £1.50 a day for the security of knowing the system is monitored 24/7 by ADT and that if two sensors are tripped the Police will attend within 10 minutes - that is extraordinary value to me.

The Antikythera Mechanism · Oct 11, 2018

timbha said:
I think the police withdrew from this service some years ago. Personally I’d be happier with a bunch of heavies sorting it out

No, the Police still monitor and attend. They are paid to do so through the subscription.

mikeyjh · Oct 11, 2018

The Antikythera Mechanism said:
No, the Police still monitor and attend. They are paid to do so through the subscription.

The problem is, burglars are not deterred by cameras or alarms, and when push comes to shove, that's what matters. There's no harm installing all of this but as previously mentioned, dogs are a better answer.

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