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    What I find weird is, nobody I know is religious but everyone I know gets married in a church, christening's, funerals all with lashings of the God waffle!
    I think the only good thing about it is the architecture.

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      Not everyone, none of my children have been christened and my late wife had a humanist funeral.
      I saw too many dreadful things during my two years in Aden for there to be a God.
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      What I find weird is, nobody I know is religious but everyone I know gets married in a church, christening's, funerals all with lashings of the God waffle!
      I think the only good thing about it is the architecture.

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      I believe.
      I believe that Jesus would, if he could, have voted remain, so he's alright by me.
      Amen.
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      So last night I went to a religious show at a church, due to a family connection.

      It’s the first time I’ve been to a church or similar for some time and it made me think.

      What do the religious leaders need to do to encourage people to believe again? The Church of England to me seems totally out of touch with the majority of the country. Most of the people present were over 60. The vicar seemed like a good chap who was well intentioned but I just don’t get it.

      I think most of us could get on board with the good and bad thing, like Star Wars, but all the talk of God is to me just unintelligent. I can’t believe in one great God. Life happens and clearly for most logical thinkers the existence of God can’t be a thing.

      Flip this over though and the Muslim faith appears to be growing in this country. What are they doing that the Church of England isn’t?

      Is it already too late to encourage people back to church? Is that it for the C of E?
      You need to remove the word 'faith'.

      Islam is where the church was 400 years ago. It is a cultural and political movement. God, Allah, whatever, is the catalyst.

      Christianity is now back at the root stage. It is a faith. Younger people are more likely to attend church because it's something they feel inspired to do rather than just do. Hence the rise of the charismatic movement.

      You don't need to preach Allah to encourage the advance of a political movement with willing subscribers. You do need to preach Christ risen to fill a church.
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      I'm a Christian and have been all my life.
      I used to go to church regularly but tend to go less and less now.
      My beliefs haven't changed at all however.
      The reason I am going less is that quite frankly I find it very boring a lot of the time. I don't particularly like hymns and lots of the sermons are simply "God loves you" etc which gets very repetitive!
      A few weeks ago at a service the minister was talking about the Christian view on divorce. It was far more interesting BUT I think would have been far better if it could have been debated, people ask questions etc.
      I'm a teacher and we, as a profession, have moved on from simply lecturing students to get them more involved in their learning. I think the church need to do the same and move away from the lecturing, preaching style that hasn't changed for decades!
      So if you don't mind me asking what exactly is it that you believe? For example, do you believe that by praying these requests are answered or is it more down to the thought that there is some existence of some kind once you die?
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      I have always taken the view that religion is a code you can live by (the song teach your children well comes to mind), introduced to keep the multitudes in check, which to some extent it did. I donít generally have issues with the ten commandments - a set of rules that can be applied. I donít have problems with people making up stories to illustrate what is good and bad behaviour etc. When I was young most kids went, under orders from parents, to sunday school and to an extent it did teach right from wrong. I am not saying ďgod-fearingĒ but I can see where the phrase must have developed from.
      Today, few go to church and a personís moral compass only comes from their parents or significant others. If their parents have none, then it is unlikely that their kids will either. The fewer with no compass, the worse modern life will be for the rest of us.
      There is still a role for church-like instruction (call it what you like) but there needs to be one hell of an incentive to get todayís youngsters anywhere near it.
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      I personally think it's a great shame that modern society is becoming atheist. Christian values are in part what made the the generations of the early 20th century so great. The loss of Christian values has been hugely detrimental to the morality and wellbeing of society.
      You mean we should go back to being sexist, homophobic and threatening people with hell? I would say the loss of religion in the last 50 years has allowed us to move towards gender equality and sexuality rights, countries that are still religious are a long way behind in these respects.
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      Given Trump is a Christian, Reed-Mogg is a fanatical Catholic and ISIL are mired in fundamentalist Islam, a full atheist revolution cannot come quickly enough. Not many humanists carrying out suicide bombings or attacking the medical staff from abortion clinics are there?


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      This is quite a radical association, it's not what I meant.

      When I say society is missing core Christian values, I mean things like love thy neighbour, fidelity in marriage, forgiveness, unconditional love, and so on. Really positive things that frequently disappear with Christianity. Values which in part made the greatest generation so great.
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      All cults are bad in my opinion we should all stop having imaginary freinds when we are adults
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      This is quite a radical association, it's not what I meant.

      When I say society is missing core Christian values, I mean things like love thy neighbour, fidelity in marriage, forgiveness, unconditional love, and so on. Really positive things that frequently disappear with Christianity. Values which in part made the greatest generation so great.
      You can have morality without god, infact if we took on everything in the bible some murders would be justified , slavery would be a good idea along with the surpression of women . Religuis people cherry pick the rules in the bible. Morality come from society and within ones self
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