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[Politics] David Lammy



Brighton Mod

Its All Too Beautiful
Lots of questions, no solutions? He’s a back bench MP for the opposition.

But he wasn't when he held Ministerial Office in the Blair Government from 2002 onwards, didn't hear anything about 'Windrush' then and still not heard much about antisemitism in the labour party from him since. He's a back bench MP in a far left party and he espouses left wing views and he's still on the gravy train. These characters are the go to fodder for the media when such issues are exposed, he's never had a solution.
 




alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
It's got to the point where pretty much anyone is better than Corbyn and McDonnell, but I'm not sure Lammy would be the first choice to replace him. He's a fantastic back-bench MP, not sure he would be lead material. Would love to be proved wrong though because he's a fantastic guy.

hes a self serving clown who latches onto race issues and hes defending his "community" he also claimed that Indians who fought for the allies in ww2 fought for the "european project" .
 


alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
Never heard so much from him as recently, future PM material?? Got to be the politician of 2017/18.

You lot. on here make me die , any black politician that can actually string a sentence together is tipped as a "future PM"
 


CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
44,757
But he wasn't when he held Ministerial Office in the Blair Government from 2002 onwards, didn't hear anything about 'Windrush' then and still not heard much about antisemitism in the labour party from him since. He's a back bench MP in a far left party and he espouses left wing views and he's still on the gravy train. These characters are the go to fodder for the media when such issues are exposed, he's never had a solution.

Nobody heard anything about Windrush until a few months ago when the Home Office started reporting people.
 




Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,324
Uffern
But he wasn't when he held Ministerial Office in the Blair Government from 2002 onwards, didn't hear anything about 'Windrush' then

That's because it wasn't an issue then - it's only become a problem since the changes to residency introduced in 2015.

I'm no apologist for Lammy, I think he's a bit of an opportunist but don't make up things with which to criticise him
 


Brighton Mod

Its All Too Beautiful
That's because it wasn't an issue then - it's only become a problem since the changes to residency introduced in 2015.

I'm no apologist for Lammy, I think he's a bit of an opportunist but don't make up things with which to criticise him

He speaks with great vision, has done nothing and if it wasn't an issue at that time whilst Tony Blair opened the floodgates to new waves of immigration it should have been. So while he points the finger at the government who have only recently discovered the issue, he deserves to be seen in the same light, even though the government have been very slow off the mark. Now the story has all but disappeared from the media, we await to see how many claimants there will be and David Lammys real contribution to this other than raising his profile.
 


Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,324
Uffern
So while he points the finger at the government who have only recently discovered the issue,

You didn't read what I wrote: the government hasn't recently discovered the issue, it wasn't an issue until three years ago when the government changed the rules.

The EU immigration of the late 90s is not the same thing at all. If a future government changes their status, yes, it may become one but he, or anyone else, can't speak about an issue that doesn't exist.
 






jimhigham

Je Suis Rhino
Apr 25, 2009
7,699
Woking
...in Delhi on a fact finding mission, is he the MP for Delhi and what did he learn about his experience there...

He has a legal background and was trying to establish why the Foreign Office lost such a high proportion of its visa refusal appeals. His subsequent feedback was pretty helpful to us. Next.
 


Thunder Bolt

Ordinary Supporter
You didn't read what I wrote: the government hasn't recently discovered the issue, it wasn't an issue until three years ago when the government changed the rules.

The EU immigration of the late 90s is not the same thing at all. If a future government changes their status, yes, it may become one but he, or anyone else, can't speak about an issue that doesn't exist.

This government, more specifically, Theresa May as Home Office minister, changed the rules in 2015, which left a complete section of society, who had been here since the 1950s and 60s, having to find proof with four documents for every year of residence.
Amber Rudd became the fall guy, but May should be resigning as well, because she knew full well, what she was doing. Trying to win back the UKIP votes.
 




Thunder Bolt

Ordinary Supporter
He has a legal background and was trying to establish why the Foreign Office lost such a high proportion of its visa refusal appeals. His subsequent feedback was pretty helpful to us. Next.

Not just any legal background. He wanted to get into Oxford, but like many, was refused, so applied to Harvard instead, and was accepted.
 




DavidinSouthampton

Well-known member
NSC Patreon
Jan 3, 2012
16,538
But he wasn't when he held Ministerial Office in the Blair Government from 2002 onwards, didn't hear anything about 'Windrush' then and still not heard much about antisemitism in the labour party from him since. He's a back bench MP in a far left party and he espouses left wing views and he's still on the gravy train. These characters are the go to fodder for the media when such issues are exposed, he's never had a solution.

Was Windrush an issue in 2002? I don't think anyone had any idea of what would be happening now.
 




Thunder Bolt

Ordinary Supporter
So so wrong of all parties involved. I wonder how long it takes for them to get any compensation as they deserve it

Some of them just want their jobs back, or to be able to rent properties, none of which they can do without id.
 


Thunder Bolt

Ordinary Supporter
Was Windrush an issue in 2002? I don't think anyone had any idea of what would be happening now.

2015 was when Theresa May changed the rules. The Windrush generation and their children didn't need to apply for British citizenship as they already were British.

It's not just the Commonwealth people who came over. It's now happening to EU citizens (who didn't need to become British until the Brexit vote) who are applying to become British.

http://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/i...ial_Icon&utm_campaign=in_article_social_icons
 




Thunder Bolt

Ordinary Supporter
I can only agree with you, times move on, information comes to light and decisions have to be made, but David Lammy championed this and rode on the 'Windrush' wave, but really had no real involvement with the issue.

Tosh. He had had constituents coming to him for help. It was his speech in the Commons which exposed the scandal.
 




cunning fergus

Well-known member
Jan 18, 2009
4,744
Corbyn wants Brexit as much as Farage and Rees-Mogg. Lots of young Labour party members are leaving because they've realised he isn't an opposition leader, but complicit.

That’s a good thing, there are legion of dumb labour supporters who are really Tories, but think they are socialists. Corbyn’s opposition to the capitalist Tory wet dream that is the EU is well understood amongst anyone with an iota of political nous, this dynamic is no different than naive youngsters finding out that Father Christmas doesn’t exist.

I can recall a number of phone-ins during the general election where these earnest new Corbynites would vent their spleen about not being able to get on the housing ladder because of the evil Tories and how they placed trust in uncle Jeremy to enable them to own capital, and possibly become landlords.

These cretins need to leave the Labour Party so it can return to socialism and set a path to nationalise private capital. I am sure you agree?
 


Thunder Bolt

Ordinary Supporter
That’s a good thing, there are legion of dumb labour supporters who are really Tories, but think they are socialists. Corbyn’s opposition to the capitalist Tory wet dream that is the EU is well understood amongst anyone with an iota of political nous, this dynamic is no different than naive youngsters finding out that Father Christmas doesn’t exist.

I can recall a number of phone-ins during the general election where these earnest new Corbynites would vent their spleen about not being able to get on the housing ladder because of the evil Tories and how they placed trust in uncle Jeremy to enable them to own capital, and possibly become landlords.

These cretins need to leave the Labour Party so it can return to socialism and set a path to nationalise private capital. I am sure you agree?

No.
 



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