[Politics] David Lammy

cunning fergus said:

Those that want to make the Labour Party electable are not socialists, if they were they would be lining up behind Brexit to further the interests of the British working class, or as you would collectively refer to them.......Gammon.

Socialism does not need to be Corbyn’s brand, and certainly not a complete handover of power to the unions or persuit of a quasi Venezuelan state.

Public ownership of state assets, active management of the U.K. labour market, active management of the U.K. property market and redistribution of state monies destined to governmental/quango capitalist structures would all be popular with voters.

You won’t see these policies as opportunities because you are Toy minded and ideologically opposed to them.........it’s why you and others like you gleefully refer to the British working class that voted leave as Gammon.

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Haha, you've reverted to type. I'm the baddie because I dared to use the word gammon, and now that I'm seeing through your bullshit I'm also "Tory minded". Regardless, I'd guess all that gammon, sorry, "working class Brit" (because obviously that suits your narrative despite it not actually meaning the same thing at all) probably find it less offensive than your sickening falling-in behind a known IRA appeaser though. The IRA are, you know, that organisation that blew up people with nail bombs back in the day. There will probably be more of that after Brexit when it becomes obvious it effectively rips up the GFA.

And I'm no more Tory minded than you, I'm a political liberal.

Simster said:

Haha, you've reverted to type. I'm the baddie because I dared to use the word gammon, and now that I'm seeing through your bullshit I'm also "Tory minded". Regardless, I'd guess all that gammon, sorry, "working class Brit" (because obviously that suits your narrative despite it not actually meaning the same thing at all) probably find it less offensive than your sickening falling-in behind a known IRA appeaser though. The IRA are, you know, that organisation that blew up people with nail bombs back in the day. There will probably be more of that after Brexit when it becomes obvious it effectively rips up the GFA.

And I'm no more Tory minded than you, I'm a political liberal.

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This is not a matter of good or bad, if you want to use “gammon” as a collective reference for the 17m or so of white British that you don’t agree with politically on Brexit that’s up to you. In the context of Brexit however this evidently includes the white working class, so it’s difficult to land at any alternative view that it is disparaging. But I’m a free speech liberal so you knock yourself out, I dare say you have said worse.

You have a point about Corbyn and the IRA, it’s this kind of back story that makes it difficult to get traction politically with a significant part of the electorate but that should not be conflated with political socialism or Brexit triggering a wave of Irish republican terror. The cost of the GFA and “peace” in NI has already led to thousands of republican terrorists being released from prison and advised that they will not be prosecuted for past atrocities........meanwhile the Govt is pursuing past serving British soldiers.......or gammon as you would refer to them.

If the violent Irish republican movement are willing to go to war because of customs tarriffs, all those released terrorists should be rounded up and thrown back in prison where they should be now. Both sides have a lot to lose.