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[Albion] Malcolm Allison



Lenny Rider

Well-known member
Sep 15, 2010
5,375
Its Palace week, and when thinking about all things '6 finger Croydon massive' Big Mal is always prominent in my thoughts, if only for sheer entertainment value, search You Tube, there are some classics on there, a fair few big fat cigars. (His spat with Mullers on the Big Match from 1970 is worth a look alone)

Lauded by many as the greatest technical coach this country ever produced.

Had he been around today would he have actually been more sucessful?

Would technically the top players of today suited his coaching skills?
 


Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
19,632
Eastbourne
Its Palace week, and when thinking about all things '6 finger Croydon massive' Big Mal is always prominent in my thoughts, if only for sheer entertainment value, search You Tube, there are some classics on there, a fair few big fat cigars. (His spat with Mullers on the Big Match from 1970 is worth a look alone)

Lauded by many as the greatest technical coach this country ever produced.

Had he been around today would he have actually been more sucessful?

Would technically the top players of today suited his coaching skills?

The man was a larger than life character and as loathsome as a toad.
 


Eeyore

Lord Donkey of Queen's Park
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Apr 5, 2014
23,381
Halifax 1980 :lolol:
 


Not Andy Naylor

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Dec 12, 2007
8,787
Seven Dials
The received wisdom is that he did well at Citeh because the more experienced Joe Mercer was around to curb his excesses. And you have to conclude that his subsequent career backs that view up. Left to his own devices, he didn't achieve that much. Apart from getting Palace relegated twice, of course.
 


The Andy Naylor Fan Club

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Aug 31, 2012
5,144
Right Here, Right Now
The received wisdom is that he did well at Citeh because the more experienced Joe Mercer was around to curb his excesses. And you have to conclude that his subsequent career backs that view up. Left to his own devices, he didn't achieve that much. Apart from getting Palace relegated twice, of course.

All the proof you need that he was very good at his job. :lolol:
 




Cowfold Seagull

Fan of the 17 bus
Apr 22, 2009
21,578
Cowfold
What makes me smile to myself, is that many on here will deride him, and loathe him, for the simple fact that he was once manager of Crystal Palace. Whilst admitting that l didn't care very much for him as a person, that doesn't mean he wasn't very good at his job, as his record proves.

There have been many football managers that l haven't liked as people, Sir Alex and Jose Mourinho are two more, but that doesn't mean l don't respect them for brilliant at what they do.
 


el punal

Well-known member
Fat Cigar, Fedora Hat, Fiona Richmond, various other totty jobs, he was absolutely ripe for the piss to be taken in a gigantic way. And so it was, in February 1976 when we played Palace at the Goldstone, winning 2-0. Mike Bamber and the rest of the directors all wore Fedora hats as an “up yours” gesture. The result also helped. Marvellous!! :albion2:
 


Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
19,632
Eastbourne
What makes me smile to myself, is that many on here will deride him, and loathe him, for the simple fact that he was once manager of Crystal Palace. Whilst admitting that l didn't care very much for him as a person, that doesn't mean he wasn't very good at his job, as his record proves.

There have been many football managers that l haven't liked as people, Sir Alex and Jose Mourinho are two more, but that doesn't mean l don't respect them for brilliant at what they do.

Have a read of wikipedia's section on his managerial career. He was RUBBISH.
 






BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
A friend of mine ran a pub in Elmers End near Beckenham that MA frequented very often and my friend told me that he had a terrific aura about him and whenever he walked into the pub people would stand up and just look.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
49,341
Faversham
A friend of mine ran a pub in Elmers End near Beckenham that MA frequented very often and my friend told me that he had a terrific aura about him and whenever he walked into the pub people would stand up and just look.

If Roy 'Chubby' Brown wandered into my local, we'd all stand up and look....
 






Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
19,632
Eastbourne
If he was RUBBISH as you put it, he wouldn't have had the career that he diid. Was very successful under Joe Mercer at Manchester City, and without his influence they may not have had the success that they deserved.

His greatest success was as an assistant. He was a useless manager as his record proves.
 






Cowfold Seagull

Fan of the 17 bus
Apr 22, 2009
21,578
Cowfold
His greatest success was as an assistant. He was a useless manager as his record proves.

Well some people are just better at being a number two. That doesn't mean they are no good at what they do, or that they are RUBBISH as an earlier poster put it. If he really was 'useless' no club would ever have employed him.

What put a lot of people off Malcolm Allison, were his excesses and the way he behaved outside the game.
 


cardboard

New member
Jul 8, 2003
4,573
Mile Oak
I was in a pub once when he came in. All of them ordered food and he was the only one in the group to finish as they were huge portions.
Allisons wholemeal i think they said at the time!!
 


kevo

Well-known member
Mar 8, 2008
9,085
I can vouch for that, I spent an evening with him at a bar in Yarm near Middlebrough.

He must live up that way. My mate once shared a cab with him from Northallerton station.
 


Monkey Man

Your support is not that great
Jan 30, 2005
3,156
Neither here nor there
Fat Cigar, Fedora Hat, Fiona Richmond, various other totty jobs, he was absolutely ripe for the piss to be taken in a gigantic way. And so it was, in February 1976 when we played Palace at the Goldstone, winning 2-0. Mike Bamber and the rest of the directors all wore Fedora hats as an “up yours” gesture. The result also helped. Marvellous!! :albion2:

Hadn't heard that story before. Makes me like Bamber even more.
 




Jesus Gul

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Feb 23, 2004
5,464
If I recall when he wasn’t sharing baths with porn stars he introduced the iconic sash kit. Such a good kit but the clowns refuse to use it these days
 


Raleigh Chopper

New member
Sep 1, 2011
12,054
Plymouth
He must live up that way. My mate once shared a cab with him from Northallerton station.

Yes he did live in Yarm and died there.
And he did have an aura about him, as soon as he walked in you knew who he was.
I went to the bar and he started the conversation with me and it went on for some time while he was throwing wine by the bottle down his throat.
When I told him I supported Brighton his response was arrrghh.
But, I'm afraid, he was very very drunk.
 



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