[Football] Safe Standing update

Bob'n'weave · Feb 7, 2018

We could be seeing SS in the PL by the end of the season according to this. This article is bias towards the SS approach, coming from a firm that makes the kit, but there is a bit from THFC about bringing it in. Not bothering wth a poll, I know opinions are divided. Could help the NS create a bit more noise/atmosphere though?

https://talksport.com/football/prem...-areas-could-be-installed-summer-180125269989

Is it PotG? · Feb 7, 2018

Would cost a few quid with NO increase in crowd size, as previously mentioned by PB. ST price increase anyone?

https://www.brightonandhovealbion.com/news/2016/october/albion-to-look-at-safe-standing/

Moshe Gariani · Feb 7, 2018

Bob'n'weave said:
We could be seeing SS in the PL by the end of the season according to this. This article is bias towards the SS approach, coming from a firm that makes the kit, but there is a bit from THFC about bringing it in. Not bothering wth a poll, I know opinions are divided. Could help the NS create a bit more noise/atmosphere though?

https://talksport.com/football/prem...-areas-could-be-installed-summer-180125269989

Definitely scope for some sort of a re-jig at The Amex to create a proper section for the young at heart to stand together and make their noise. The original idea of spreading the stand & sing lot across the whole width of the back rows of the NS has not worked very well.

Whether it can be done or not is another question but it would be a good thing.

Bob'n'weave · Feb 7, 2018

Is it PotG? said:
Would cost a few quid with NO increase in crowd size, as previously mentioned by PB. ST price increase anyone?

https://www.brightonandhovealbion.com/news/2016/october/albion-to-look-at-safe-standing/

Nothing in that article that would suggest money ROI is an obstacle, just the legislation standing in the way of the club needing to seriously consider it as an option, then safety being the next priority. There is an option, which is used in Europe where you can get 2 for 1 or 3 for every 2, which would increase capacity a little, but it's unclear as to whether this would be adopted in the PL. Celtic have taken the 1 for 1 option and the club reports are glowing - better atmosphere, more noise etc. Would be great in the NS.

Is it PotG? · Feb 7, 2018

Bob'n'weave said:
Nothing in that article that would suggest money ROI is an obstacle, just the legislation standing in the way of the club needing to seriously consider it as an option, then safety being the next priority. There is an option, which is used in Europe where you can get 2 for 1 or 3 for every 2, which would increase capacity a little, but it's unclear as to whether this would be adopted in the PL. Celtic have taken the 1 for 1 option and the club reports are glowing - better atmosphere, more noise etc. Would be great in the NS.

I appear to have misunderstood this part.

Bob'n'weave · Feb 7, 2018

Moshe Gariani said:
Definitely scope for some sort of a re-jig at The Amex to create a proper section for the young at heart to stand together and make their noise. The original idea of spreading the stand & sing lot across the whole width of the back rows of the NS has not worked very well.

Whether it can be done or not is another question but it would be a good thing.

My thoughts exactly. A curved section across the back and down the sides in the NS would let sitters munch on the prawn sarnies while the rest behind them party on.

Pretty pink fairy · Feb 7, 2018

Bob'n'weave said:
Nothing in that article that would suggest money ROI is an obstacle, just the legislation standing in the way of the club needing to seriously consider it as an option, then safety being the next priority. There is an option, which is used in Europe where you can get 2 for 1 or 3 for every 2, which would increase capacity a little, but it's unclear as to whether this would be adopted in the PL. Celtic have taken the 1 for 1 option and the club reports are glowing - better atmosphere, more noise etc. Would be great in the NS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJDWKvsmhss
regards
DR

Bob'n'weave · Feb 7, 2018

Is it PotG? said:
I appear to have misunderstood this part.

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Yes. They are talking about not reducing prices for standing and how the funding might be worked out. Nothing about 'we need to make money from this'. They would have to justify the spend as being in the best interests of the club/supporters IMHO.

Is it PotG? · Feb 7, 2018

Bob'n'weave said:
Yes. They are talking about not reducing prices for standing and how the funding might be worked out. Nothing about 'we need to make money from this'. They would have to justify the spend as being in the best interests of the club/supporters IMHO.

So, would fans in other areas of the ground be expected to contribute?

Bob'n'weave · Feb 7, 2018

Is it PotG? said:
So, would fans in other areas of the ground be expected to contribute?

No idea where you are getting that idea from?

Is it PotG? · Feb 7, 2018

Bob'n'weave said:
No idea where you are getting that idea from?

So, from what you are saying, those wishing to be in such an area would face an increase to cover the cost?

turienzo's lovechild · Feb 7, 2018

We won’t be one of the forerunners in this in my view- maybe we’ll follow the crowd a bit further down the line but the club don’t sound overly keen on it to be honest

Am I right in saying that Shrewsbury are installing a safe standing area?

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blockhseagull · Feb 7, 2018

Even if safe standing is passed for use in the Premier League I can’t see us bringing it in.

Bloom and Barber said as much after the general ‘meh’ response when they were surveying customers and the fact that only a handful of people turned up to a forum about it ?

Bob'n'weave · Feb 7, 2018

Is it PotG? said:
So, from what you are saying, those wishing to be in such an area would face an increase to cover the cost?

Nope. Not at all. I'm saying that a financial ROI, (fans paying for it) is not a major factor in the decision making process. This may transpire as an issue if the club want to go down that road, we will see. ATM SS does not look likely to be even considered at BHA because there is no real reason to change, according to TB and co.

Nixonator · Feb 7, 2018

The North needs a blatant rejig and this would be the best way to do it.

Napper · Feb 7, 2018

Apparently they already canvassed opinion from fans and the response was far far from positive towards it.

Was ruled out.

We wont see it at the Amex anytime soon

Nixonator · Feb 7, 2018

Napper said:
Apparently they already canvassed opinion from fans and the response was far far from positive towards it.

Was ruled out.

We wont see it at the Amex anytime soon

Where did you see this?

The only thing I heard was that not many people responded to the email and not very many people turned up to the forum (I didn't even know there was one).

The issue is, a large part of the North (where it will potentially be installed) already stand. So they're not likely to be negative about it are they? Neither are they going to make much effort to campaign for something they already do every other week.

As for the rest of the ground, it's no real business of theirs unless they a) plan on moving to a more passionate section or b) prices will be increased across the board to fund it.

I see absolutely no reason to oppose safe-standing other than for some people who maybe shouldn't be in the North in the first place. I realise this statement may cause some faux outrage by those who, well, love to be outraged by anything particularly when an area is set off-limits to them. But there has to be somewhere in the ground that has cheaper pricing and to be (legally) able to stand there, sing and be active which is what the younger generation like and some of us not so young too.

Gazwag · Feb 7, 2018

Nixonator said:
. But there has to be somewhere in the ground that has cheaper pricing and to be (legally) able to stand there, sing and be active which is what the younger generation like and some of us not so young too.

What makes you think it will be cheaper to stand, there will be exactly the same amount of standing spaces as there were seats before so why would the club reduce its income

maffew · Feb 7, 2018

Gazwag said:
What makes you think it will be cheaper to stand, there will be exactly the same amount of standing spaces as there were seats before so why would the club reduce its income

Bloom already said if it DID happen the cost wouldnt/couldnt be reduced, it'd be like you said the same allocation
What actually needs to make it happen to be safe standing (in an infrastructure way), would they take the seats out and put some kind of other bits in

Gazwag · Feb 7, 2018

maffew said:
Bloom already said if it DID happen the cost wouldnt/couldnt be reduced, it'd be like you said the same allocation
What actually needs to make it happen to be safe standing (in an infrastructure way), would they take the seats out and put some kind of other bits in

They would remove the seats in put in rail seating where the seats are locked upright

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