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[Albion] Will the lack of a “new manager bounce” be what costs us in the end?



Giraffe

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Been talking with a few non Albion supporting guys tonight and all think we are doomed. They all think that admirable though it is to keep Hughton regardless of results and they see the logic they think that this alone will send us down, because it so tight that not achieving the new manager bonus of 6-9 points may cost us.

Frankly I don’t care, I’d stick by Hughton regardless because he is the best man to bring us back up. But do they have a point? Are we going to miss out due to not using the manager booster button?
 


StonehamPark

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The combined squad + management ability is what determines a clubs position at the end of the season, in my opinion.

I don't believe the 'The New Manager Bounce' is a real thing, nor will it magically grant us 6-9 points due to a new appointment.
 


Triggaaar

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Will the lack of a “new manager bounce” be what costs us in the end?
Like when Roy joined the scum and they proceeded to lose 4 on the bounce without scoring? No.

They all think that admirable though it is to keep Hughton regardless of results and they see the logic they think that this alone will send us down, because it so tight that not achieving the new manager bonus of 6-9 points may cost us.
A new manager doesn't get you 6-9 points. Do they not think that failing to get a striker before late February might have something to do with it?

Frankly I don’t care, I’d stick by Hughton regardless because he is the best man to bring us back up. But do they have a point?
No.
 


Grombleton

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No. They are idiots.
 


hitony

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Been talking with a few non Albion supporting guys tonight and all think we are doomed. They all think that admirable though it is to keep Hughton regardless of results and they see the logic they think that this alone will send us down, because it so tight that not achieving the new manager bonus of 6-9 points may cost us.

Frankly I don’t care, I’d stick by Hughton regardless because he is the best man to bring us back up. But do they have a point? Are we going to miss out due to not using the manager booster button?

Where do you get this confident "he is the best man to bring us back up"? I completely disagree, yes he is a good manager at Championship level, but present players WILL move on, if we go down it will be desperate, money will be a massive thing, even if we are doing ok in the Championship we will NOT have full houses every game, it just won't happen, unless we are right up the top doing a Man City! I will state now, I WOULD RATHER STAY UP WITH CH STOPPING AS MANAGER, I DONT WANT HIM GONE! but if we do go down really do expect massive changes, and if I am wrong about CH bringing us straight back up.......I will bounce the thread and be very happy!! sadly I just don't think it will work out like that, we will have to re build under quite harsh conditions, I'm sure Tony Bloom said something along the lines of "we must stay up at all costs" (something like that anyway.....)
 








GT49er

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Been talking with a few non Albion supporting guys tonight and all think we are doomed. They all think that admirable though it is to keep Hughton regardless of results and they see the logic they think that this alone will send us down, because it so tight that not achieving the new manager bonus of 6-9 points may cost us.

Frankly I don’t care, I’d stick by Hughton regardless because he is the best man to bring us back up. But do they have a point? Are we going to miss out due to not using the manager booster button?

No thanks. There may be something in the 'new manager bounce' syndrome, but I'd rather keep CH to give us the best chance of being a bounce club, should the worst come to the worst.



Besides, who could we get in? Tim f**kin' Sherwood ffs? Or, God forbid, 'Arry..........................................
 




Baldseagull

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Jan 26, 2012
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Been talking with a few non Albion supporting guys tonight and all think we are doomed. They all think that admirable though it is to keep Hughton regardless of results and they see the logic they think that this alone will send us down, because it so tight that not achieving the new manager bonus of 6-9 points may cost us.

Frankly I don’t care, I’d stick by Hughton regardless because he is the best man to bring us back up. But do they have a point? Are we going to miss out due to not using the manager booster button?

They are all wrong to be so sure, some managers get a bounce, one reason is a renewed motivation in the squad, I don't think we have a problem there, the other is a change in formation or tactics, so the homework the opposition do on your previous games is less useful to them. I think Chris is capable of switching it up a bit, especially with new personnel, the best football under Hughton was after the January window when Knockaert and Skalak joined, maybe Locadia and Ulloa will have a similar effect.
 


hart's shirt

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Jul 8, 2003
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Good question.

Here's a link to an article on the whether the new manager bounce actually exists or whether it is, in fact, just coincidence.

https://www.footballfancast.com/premier-league/why-a-new-manager-bounce-is-only-for-christmas-not-for-life

The parting comment was "perhaps, then, the answer lies not in relying on an injection of new blood every time crisis looms but rather a club taking the time and calmness to find the right man and entrusting in him to eventually find the magic formula."

Improvement through continuity rather than wholesale change is what's advocated.

I'd go for that and I hope so would most supporters as well as TB.

We've got the right man in charge.
 


Pickles

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May 5, 2014
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Where do you get this confident "he is the best man to bring us back up"? I completely disagree, yes he is a good manager at Championship level, but present players WILL move on, if we go down it will be desperate, money will be a massive thing, even if we are doing ok in the Championship we will NOT have full houses every game, it just won't happen, unless we are right up the top doing a Man City! I will state now, I WOULD RATHER STAY UP WITH CH STOPPING AS MANAGER, I DONT WANT HIM GONE! but if we do go down really do expect massive changes, and if I am wrong about CH bringing us straight back up.......I will bounce the thread and be very happy!! sadly I just don't think it will work out like that, we will have to re build under quite harsh conditions, I'm sure Tony Bloom said something along the lines of "we must stay up at all costs" (something like that anyway.....)

I tend to agree with this, although I fully understand where [MENTION=3734]Giraffe[/MENTION] is coming from here.

It's not as simple as it appears.

Personally, my head says we'll go back down, but to be honest, it's not the end of the bloody world.

The Albion just is, errr, The Albion.....
 




djentist

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The failure to bring in a striker in the summer, several of the missed opportunities in home games and some of the decisions tactically throughout the season that backfired are what could cost us, as well as established teams around us having more financial muscle and having better quality amongst their ranks. The new manager bounce phenomenon is inconclusive, it exists in some cases and doesn't in others
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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NOTHING'S going to 'cost us in the end'. For the first time this season, the manager's been given the tools to do the job i.e. the couple of strikers we've all been crying out for. Will be massively surprised if we haven't turned the corner now. At the very least, we've given ourselves a fighting chance. As a wise man once said, Keep The Faith! :albion:
 


wellquickwoody

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Been talking with a few non Albion supporting guys tonight and all think we are doomed. They all think that admirable though it is to keep Hughton regardless of results and they see the logic they think that this alone will send us down, because it so tight that not achieving the new manager bonus of 6-9 points may cost us.

Frankly I don’t care, I’d stick by Hughton regardless because he is the best man to bring us back up. But do they have a point? Are we going to miss out due to not using the manager booster button?

Are all these people long term fans of Prem clubs? Are their eyes blinkered by the idea that being in the Prem is the be all and end all of football? If so then they are guilty of stupidity of the ill informed type, if not then they are just mistaken. What might take us down is the failure to secure a striker or two last summer, if we had achieved this then we would have more points right now, more confidence and more hope of getting the required total.
 




darkwolf666

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Nov 8, 2015
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Been talking with a few non Albion supporting guys tonight and all think we are doomed. They all think that admirable though it is to keep Hughton regardless of results and they see the logic they think that this alone will send us down, because it so tight that not achieving the new manager bonus of 6-9 points may cost us.

Frankly I don’t care, I’d stick by Hughton regardless because he is the best man to bring us back up. But do they have a point? Are we going to miss out due to not using the manager booster button?

I know, let's sack Hughton and bring in a new man, get our mythical 6-9 points bounce, then sack the new manager and reappointment Hughton and get another new manager bounce. That should see us into the Europa league places... :lolol:
 


Sussex Nomad

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Been talking with a few non Albion supporting guys tonight and all think we are doomed. They all think that admirable though it is to keep Hughton regardless of results and they see the logic they think that this alone will send us down, because it so tight that not achieving the new manager bonus of 6-9 points may cost us.

Frankly I don’t care, I’d stick by Hughton regardless because he is the best man to bring us back up. But do they have a point? Are we going to miss out due to not using the manager booster button?

Because stable clubs aren't good football clubs. We need to be a basket case like, Sunderland, Hull, Boro and then of course the managerial changes in our division, at least once since the season started, Swansea, Stoke, WBA, Southampton constantly at the end of a season, all currently below us. We need that current boost like a hole in the head. You're either trying to make an interesting reaction thread start or you have armchair muppet fans for friends.
 








El Presidente

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If you take a look at the academic and statistical research done into the ‘New manager bounce’ theory, it can be summed up in one word, ‘Bollocks’.
 


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If you take a look at the academic and statistical research done into the ‘New manager bounce’ theory, it can be summed up in one word, ‘Bollocks’.

So are you saying 99% of clubs get it wrong and haven't researched this?

If we dont win the 12 pointer against the saints tonight, i say its booster button time.


I can spend a few hour re-train the squads brain to the 'best form of defence is attack', Warren Aspinall can be my no 2.
 



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