Frankie
Put him in the curry
Surely he must run before hand to stand a chance of entry ? expecting 13 horses to drop out is a little risky to say the least , what say NSC ? there's a lot at stake here , £3 e/w @ 20s to start .
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[Other Sport] Tony Bloom's horses running thread
- Thread starter Barry Izbak
- Start date
GT49er
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It does look like a bit of a gamble, but I guess that unlike most of us, TB can afford to gamble £75K and lose. On the other hand, when TB does gamble, somehow you don't really expect him to lose..........
Billy Seagull
Bookie Basher
- Jul 5, 2003
- 1,432
His handicap mark isn't high enough so it needs to get higher. The made a mistake by not running it again over here as they though it's mark was high enough.
Stratum is 15/2 in the Ces Today with BFSB which is handy.....unless you can only get £3
7s with some other shysters or 9.2 on Botfair minus commission with no BOG.
Billy Seagull
Bookie Basher
- Jul 5, 2003
- 1,432
If it is balloted out (entered but its handicap mark is too low so misses the cut), you will get you money back from the shysters.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
No money for Stratum yet
Mtoto
Well-known member
- Sep 28, 2003
- 1,841
He's favourite because he'll have a big chance if he gets in *on that weight*, and it would have been good enough to get a run in, I think, about 9 of the last 10 years. He's also top of his bracket - ie. horses on that weight - in terms of prize money, so will be the first if if they get that far down.
The issue this year looks to be that the quality of the northern hemisphere challenge has gone up at least two notches. There are plenty of Group-class horses like Cliffs Of Moher & Cross Counter travelling, and they get in higher up the list than the handicapper Withhold.
Tony Towner's Fridge
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I think all the money has been put down already. Even though Stratum is 8 lb higher than for the Ebor he looks a nailed on first 8 horse. Will Hill offering 5th odds for first 8 so an e/w would seem to be a guaranteed money back bet at least. I have him with three others for a wee Lucky 15.
Eric the Red York 2.05
Western Australia Newmarket 2.25
Stratum Newmarket 3.40
Marie of Lyon Newmarket 4.50
TNBA
TTF
Stratum I think is off the same mark as the Ebor. 8lb higher than his Newbury win though... He would have gone very close in the Ebor but for a nightmare run up the rails. The extra distance will suit and he should get a much clearer run on a wider and straighter track...
Agree with you 100% - each way 8 places looks a guarantee. I’ve backed him to win though, Withhold was so impressive winning this for Tony last year and I think he’s got another very strong chance today too
Tony Towner's Fridge
Well-known member
Stratum I think is off the same mark as the Ebor. 8lb higher than his Newbury win though... He would have gone very close in the Ebor but for a nightmare run up the rails. The extra distance will suit and he should get a much clearer run on a wider and straighter track...
Agree with you 100% - each way 8 places looks a guarantee. I’ve backed him to win though, Withhold was so impressive winning this for Tony last year and I think he’s got another very strong chance today too
You are correct with the weight quote, I apologise for the error but it does in fact make the argument for Stratum even more cogent.
TNBA
TTF
Iggle Piggle
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- Sep 3, 2010
- 5,313
The getting a horse to a winnable mark and leaving it in its box until the big day has served Bloom well not least with Withhold in the Cesarewitch last year. Can't help but think they've got it wrong for the MC as the higher class horses are having a crack and standing thier ground.
Cheltenham is a classic example where it gets harder and harder to win or even get in, in handicap company to the extent I think Pipe said you need a graded horse to win anything. It getting harder to land a 'touch' in the big ones and this is another example. Doesn't help from a punting perspective either.
Mtoto
Well-known member
- Sep 28, 2003
- 1,841
Very true, though the rise in quality and quantity in this year's MC seems unusually steep. Can't have been many MC runners over the years that finished 2nd in the Derby, beaten less than a length.
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
- 70,138
This. It's all about the jockey not being a dick on the day. Tho to be fair he's plenty in credit overall for owner TB, which must represent the jockey's best shot at a major pay day BY FAR
Taybha
Whalewhine
Good news is that anybody has backed Stratum iv'e left it alone and done Eye of The Storm at a huge price
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
- 70,138
[MENTION=1416]Ernest[/MENTION] will be all over them like a RASH
