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Chicken Run

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As residents of this fine city surely we can do without this infighting amongst the local Labour Party members?

BATTLE lines have been drawn after two Labour councillors called for the resignation of council leader Warren Morgan, with the city’s two Labour MPs facing off on opposing sides.

Following a scathing letter from a Labour councillor Kevin Allen calling for Councillor Morgan to step down, Hove MP Peter Kyle offered warm words of support for the embattled leader.

But Kemptown MP Lloyd Russell-Moyle said only that it was a matter for councillors to decide.

An email from Cllr Allen to Labour councillors and senior officials was leaked on Monday.

In it he criticised the leader’s threat not to allow the Labour Party to hold another conference in Brighton unless it could guarantee no repeat of bad headlines over alleged anti-Semitic comments and he called for Cllr Morgan’s resignation.

He wrote: “Warren, the problem isn’t just the poor judgment you have shown on this occasion.

“The trouble is there is an accumulation of things.

“The role you played in getting the former district party AGM annulled has not been forgotten. Then there was your conspicuous lack of engagement in the General Election campaign in your own constituency.

“Now the failure to say anything positive about conference.

“You simply don’t like what the party has become – and it shows.”

Cllr Morgan’s reply addressed the criticisms and warned that party
disunity would lead to electoral failure.

Councillor Caroline Penn then replied to the thread, saying: “I am extremely uncomfortable with this being played out by (non confidential) email.

“We are not the Greens and we should stop airing our dirty laundry in public.”

After the leak another Labour councillor, speaking on condition of anonymity, told The Argus: “This is game over for Warren.”

The councillor called for the leader either to resign or to announce immediately that he would not seek re-election at April’s AGM.

Mr Russell-Moyle continues to sit on Brighton and Hove City Council as a fellow representative of Cllr Morgan’s East Brighton ward.

Carpetbaggers, the lot em!
 




Chicken Run

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ON the warm September day Jeremy Corbyn was greeted with songs and adoring applause in the hall of the Brighton Centre, addressing the most upbeat Labour conference in a decade, council leader Warren Morgan was not in the room.

He was busy with meetings, he said, but was also feeling the first gusts of a storm of his own making.

He was being criticised for a letter, sent the previous day to Labour HQ, in which he threatened to ban his own party from future conferences in Brighton unless it promised “no repeat of the behaviour and actions we have seen this week” – a reference to alleged anti-Semitic comments at a fringe meeting.


Now, with the leak of another letter, this time from a Labour council colleague demanding his resignation, Storm Warren has intensified.

The author of the more recent letter, Councillor Kevin Allen of Preston Park ward, told The Argus: “Warren’s action... caused real dismay and bewilderment among party members.

“Labour councillors need a leader capable of engaging, enthusing and inspiring the members, building on what was achieved in the General Election.

“Warren is clearly not that person. He has to go – and fast.”
Another Labour councillor, speaking on condition of anonymity, said:

“The issue is he’s disaffected from the party in the city and we need the party united to convince voters we’re a stable political force.”

The source added that, privately, strategies for arranging a “graceful exit” for Warren Morgan had been under discussion for some time.

Because, of course, this is not just about a conference fringe meeting or a letter or the views of a single councillor, a councillor with a long history of opposing his group leader, whoever that has been.

The truth is that another front has now opened up in the long battle for the soul of the Labour Party, which has raged at least since Tony Blair’s change to Clause Four in 1995 and which became open warfare after Jeremy Corbyn’s election as leader in 2015.
 


Chicken Run

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Yet again these idiots get themselves into a situation where at last some credibility has been attained and they expose themselves as the immature pseudo retarded imbeciles that we all hope they aren’t, determined to eat each other up to the detriment of ordinary folk going about their daily lives trying to earn an honest living.

#Carpetbaggers
 




Kuipers Supporters Club

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Warren is a decent man, as is Peter Kyle.

This is typical of Labour now, with Corbynistas overrunning the party and keen to hush up racism & anti-Semitism. A real shame for a once great party.
 












Chicken Run

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Is it PotG? said:
Born and bred....born and bred.
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Then as a resident you should be better equipped to discuss this heinous situation rather than linking YouTube vids of a few people chanting the name of someone who to be frank is at the centre of this clear divide of the ruling party IC of this City? Capeesh?
 


The Large One

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Chicken Run said:
#carpertbaggers
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Actually, Morgan is a Brightonian. I can't stand the bloke (and don't get me started on Gill Mitchell and Caroline Penn), and Kevin Allen is right here, but he isn't a 'carpetbagger'.

And your thread title is totally misleading. This is about the Labour group within the city council (which is a minority of councillors), not the council itself.
 


The Merry Prankster

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Brighton4Cambridge3 said:
Warren is a decent man, as is Peter Kyle.

This is typical of Labour now, with Corbynistas overrunning the party and keen to hush up racism & anti-Semitism. A real shame for a once great party.
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By overrunning you mean having a democratic mandate in the party with by far the greatest number of members, I take it.

Oh and hushing up racism by passing strong rules about about anti Semitic behaviour at their recent conference and suspending Jared O’Mara today.

Otherwise your analysis is spot on.
 




Chicken Run

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The Large One said:
Actually, Morgan is a Brightonian. I can't stand the bloke (and don't get me started on Gill Mitchell and Caroline Penn), and Kevin Allen is right here, but he isn't a 'carpetbagger'.

And your thread title is totally misleading. This is about the Labour group within the city council (which is a minority of councillors), not the council itself.
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Warren Morgan is the leader of of the City Council ffs , I deem this is about the City Council!!!

Edit Who cares who TLO likes or dislikes in the City Council
 


Eeyore

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Chicken Run said:
Warren Morgan is the leader of of the City Council ffs , I deem this is about the City Council!!!

Edit Who cares who TLO likes or dislikes in the City Council
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What is the purpose of this thread ? You are charged with evangelical zeal about the local Labour group. It's quite off putting actually. Can't have sensible discussion.

They have the same problems as any other party.
 


Nitram

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Brighton4Cambridge3 said:
Warren is a decent man, as is Peter Kyle.

This is typical of Labour now, with Corbynistas overrunning the party and keen to hush up racism & anti-Semitism. A real shame for a once great party.
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A great example of the ugly nature of Momentum pure and simple.
 




Publius Ovidius

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Does anyone really care?

Labour won't be in power for another 4 years in theory...all this call for another election is poppycock! By then we will be out of the EU and who knows what the political landscape will be by then. The brixiteers will have had their way and we will all see if it was worth it. Exciting times ahead.
 


Chicken Run

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Publius Ovidius said:
Does anyone really care?

Labour won't be in power for another 4 years in theory...all this call for another election is poppycock! By then we will be out of the EU and who knows what the political landscape will be by then. The brixiteers will have had their way and we will all see if it was worth it. Exciting times ahead.
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PO its nothing to do with the GE , it’s more important than that it’s local government!!!
 




The Large One

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Brighton4Cambridge3 said:
Warren is a decent man, as is Peter Kyle.

This is typical of Labour now, with Corbynistas overrunning the party and keen to hush up racism & anti-Semitism. A real shame for a once great party.
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Nitram said:
A great example of the ugly nature of Momentum pure and simple.
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Ah, in the same manner of the disturbing ugliness put out by certain members of the Labour group who fabricated anti-semitic allegations against other members in order to keep the *cough* 'Corbynistas' (i.e. the largest group) out of the party. The same B&H Labour group who arbitrarily got the national party to annul the vote on the local Labour group elections, and who expelled individuals from the local party on the back of winning those elections?

Labour locally has had a lot of in-fighting on and off for the past 25-30 years - and that now it has made its way into the public via the top of the Council party. There is something quite grubby within the B&H Labour group at present - and to blame Momentum on the back of fictional allegations (which the likes of the Mail, Express etc. are trying to make stick) is ridiculous.
 




Nitram

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The Large One said:
Ah, in the same manner of the disturbing ugliness put out by certain members of the Labour group who fabricated anti-semitic allegations against other members in order to keep the *cough* 'Corbynistas' (i.e. the largest group) out of the party. The same B&H Labour group who arbitrarily got the national party to annul the vote on the local Labour group elections, and who expelled individuals from the local party on the back of winning those elections?

Labour locally has had a lot of in-fighting on and off for the past 25-30 years - and that now it has made its way into the public via the top of the Council party. There is something quite grubby within the B&H Labour group at present - and to blame Momentum on the back of fictional allegations (which the likes of the Mail, Express etc. are trying to make stick) is ridiculous.
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Spoken like a true Corbynist and Momentum member, Labour is in a very sorry state at present it's a great pity. Peter Kyle will be next on the hit list.
 


Cheshire Cat

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Sitting on a bough of a tree a few yards off...
For reasons best known to themselves, the Labour party appears to hate each other far more than real enemy. It's highly entertaining in a rather depressing way.

"Carpetbaggers" may not be an accurate description, but "ego-centric tossers" definitely is.

PS - if you think Brighton is bad, you should try Liverpool.
 


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