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    Not sure she's that great after reading this

    https://amp.theguardian.com/commenti...-environmental
    May i ask you not to use facts like these, as the German and EU loving people just won’t like it.

    Another thing I read was that with the closure of the nuclear plants in Germany, this was leading to the burning of more coal by Germany.

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      Not sure where you got your stats from Rip Van Winkle.

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      (Assuming the exit polls are right) Being the largest party after three terms in government is pretty impressive and the results once again demonstrate why being the junior partner in a coalition is never going to be a vote winner. Wise of the SPD to explicitly state that they won't be in a coalition with the CDU this time.

      It's now a difficult balancing act for the CDU. They are going to have to be in a coalition with the FDU and I guess the Greens too. That will need an interesting choice of coalition agreements, but should be possible.

      The elephant now actually in the room is the AFD. I would guess the plan will be to mirror what happened to the Swedish Democrats and ignore them - and the pretend they don't exist - but in reality the CDU should be looking to get some of their more reasonable and/or protest voters on board by addressing some of their concerns. Whether that will be possible while in a coalition with the Greens will be the difficult part.

      Will there ever be a Left/Green/Social Democracy coalition? There might be, but we're still a long way from the early 21st century Green/SPD coalitions in terms of votes/seats.
      Do you mean the FDP? They have previously been in coalition with Merkel and were a preferred partner 5 years ago although they didn't get enough seats in the last election hence the grand coalition.
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      May i ask you not to use facts like these, as the German and EU loving people just won’t like it.

      Another thing I read was that with the closure of the nuclear plants in Germany, this was leading to the burning of more coal by Germany.
      German loving people? Do I have competition with my tiresome agenda?
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      Do you mean the FDP? They have previously been in coalition with Merkel and were a preferred partner 5 years ago although they didn't get enough seats in the last election hence the grand coalition.
      Yes, that's the one. Too many DPFU letters.

      Will it be with the Green's this time round as well as the FDP?
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      Yes, that's the one. Too many DPFU letters.

      Will it be with the Green's this time round as well as the FDP?
      I'm certain the FDP will be in the coalition. It seems they will need another if the exit polls are to believed; I think Merkel will favour the Greens to Die Linke. So yes I think you're correct.
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      German loving people? Do I have competition with my tiresome agenda?
      As I’m watching the news, it appears that the situation is far from “Strong and Stable”.

      If the SPD end up in coalition, the the AfD become the official opposition with the benefits that brings. If the choose to become the official opposing, then Merkel has a rainbow coalition and has to sort out divergent policies. Oh dear
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      As I’m watching the news, it appears that the situation is far from “Strong and Stable”.

      If the SPD end up in coalition, the the AfD become the official opposition with the benefits that brings. If the choose to become the official opposing, then Merkel has a rainbow coalition and has to sort out divergent policies. Oh dear
      "If the SPD end up in coalition, then the AfD become the official opposition" - so what do you think is going to happen given no party will want this and:

      1) The SDP have already stated they will not form a coalition.
      2) The FDP are Merkel's preferred partners.
      3) The AfD only have a projected 13% and numerous other parties can join forces to defeat them.
      4) The simple act of Merkel not choosing the SDP snookers the AfD.

      The AfD will not be the official opposition.
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      3 points to the Albion, Labour on their way to giving the Tories a good kicking at the next election and Merkel back for another term...it's been a good day. I'm done.

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      as i understand it, Merkel's party has lower vote and the main opposition SPD isnt going to go into coalition again. well, we'll see on that, power changes what people say and do (cf Liberals). more interesting is the increase importance of the FPD, who i believe are pro free trade and less likely to see barriers put up with UK in the brexit outcome.
      The English know how to make the best of things. Their so-called muddling through is simply skill at dealing with the inevitable.

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