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    Should we listen to the cry to pull down Nelson?

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      Should we listen to the cry to pull down Nelson?
      OK, I'll bite. What?
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      And what would be next...Churchill? Oliver Cromwell? Left wingers have always got something to moan about. It must be a barrel a laughs being one
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      OK, I'll bite. What?
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      I am not offering any view as yet. Make your own mind up.

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      Doh I thought Gary Nelson had taken up writing in the Sun or some other rag
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      Doh I thought Gary Nelson had taken up writing in the Sun or some other rag
      Keep your eye on the ball Nelson has been gone for years. Gary that is.
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      No, this is not America.

      Whether it's overlooking the past, Nelson is remembered mainly for the Battle of Trafalgar and his other sea victories, and why 21st October is celebrated.

      If there is a desire to confront the British Empire period, rather than knocking down statues it would be better to erect new ones to educate a new generation about the pro and cons of the Empire. Fortunately such statues are not beacons for the far right in the UK.
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      "• Afua Hirsch is a writer and broadcaster."

      ...............with an agenda, and a desire to rewrite history. 200-250 years ago, virtually the whole of Britain would have thought of black people as a primitive, less advanced, less sophisticated and ultimately inferior race. That no doubt included Lord Nelson (who, incidentally, spent little time and contributed even less in the House of Lords). So yes, he was, like everybody else at the time, technically a white supremecist.
      We now know better - but as any real historian or commentator on history will tell you, you can't judge the actions of hundreds of years ago by the mores of today.
      In Nelson's day it was acceptable to send serving sailors into the community to club young men unconscious, drag them on to ships and force them to sign up to the Royal Navy, Death if you refused. If you agreed the likelihood of staying alive long enough to see your home and family was remote. That was OK then - obviously unacceptable now.
      Once upon a time we burnt witches at the stake (plus a few Bishops) - believed to be the right thing to do at the time, but not acceptable now. Times and morals change. Trying to judge Lord Nelson by the leftish leanings of (self appointed) bright young things writing in the Guardian and their current standards is just bo11ox.
      Keep your f**king hands off Nelson's column!
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      I was making the same argument the other day. Very hypocritical of us (Brits) to support removal of statues when we've got some highly dubious figures over here immortalised in metal.

      There is an important difference to statues of Stalin etc.. and whatever they have built in North Korea. That's a very very different thing.

      So I agree with the previous poster. There is no reason why a statue can't be reconsidered as a remembrance of someone who retrospectively is considered to be a bit of a prick. As long as there aren't hundreds of them of them in which case they can happily be melted down.

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