At the end of last season I was concerned every game about Murray getting sent off. I don't know why it worried me so much, but in every game I watched his off the ball little pushes and shoves we're becoming more obvious. It only needs a stringent and alert referee and he will be a real risk. In the premier league the referees are likely to be more alert and less tolerant. If he gets even couple of sendings off in key games that could really damage our chances of staying up.
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Murray and discipline
- Thread starter scousefan
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Gritt23
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Don't see the issue myself. He's a wily old fox, trying to niggle and wind up opponents at times, but equally he seems to know how far to push it.
On my list of concerns for this season, this one is not getting anywhere near the first page.
On my list of concerns for this season, this one is not getting anywhere near the first page.
Cadiz Seagull
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I seem to remember I saw a stat last season saying he committed more fouls than anyone else in the Championship? Or maybe more than any other striker I don't know, I just remember I saw something about the number of fouls
Whoislloydy
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Standard CF behaviour IMO, bully the back line let them know you're there.
Pretty common amongst most slower CF's
Pretty common amongst most slower CF's
MrSnuggles
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23 goals in the championship, l'd say just carry on what you're doing! Niggle the defenses, draw them to make fouls and rile them up! He might pick up a few yellows and the occasional red but that's the type a player he is. You need someone with a bit of an edge in his position who gives as good as he gets
I don't blame him for what he did against Girona. Bit harsh for the player on the receiving end but the officiating was beyond a joke, genuinely embarrassing.
I take your point generally but I think that is how Murray plays best. In the faces of the defenders, constantly looking for any small advantage. He's usually very good at it.
I take your point generally but I think that is how Murray plays best. In the faces of the defenders, constantly looking for any small advantage. He's usually very good at it.
nicko31
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He is experienced and know what he can get away with
Justice
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Murray 17
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You remembered correctly, and it was out of all Championship players. He was significantly ahead too!
I put this down to having a forward's ability to tackle. Not much wrong with his defensive headers.
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He does all the excessive pushing, because that what a player does when they are struggling to play at a certain level, will there be more pushing and fouls given by Glenn in the Prem, of course there will, he is knocking on a bit.
Murray 17
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23 goals suggests he didn't struggle last season...
Da Man Clay
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He has been doing the same sort of thing since he was with us first time round. He's got better at it - but he's always had that side of his game.
Grombleton
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Are you suggesting that he struggled last season? If so, then wow.
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He pushes the boundaries and somehow managed to get away with it. If the refs played to the letter of the law he would have had several reds last year and less goals.
Did you ever see Vicente shoving players........he didn't need too.
Let's wait and see what Glenn can get away with this year and still score goals 2 years older than he was last in the Premier.
Cadiz Seagull
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You may well be right about forwards not being good tacklers. There are forwards I can think of who, if I was manager, I would instruct to keep the hell out of our penalty area because they are a walking penalty kick against us or at least likely to give away a free kick in a dangerous area.
Like a certain Solly March for example although to be fair, in the friendlies his defending seems to have improved a lot, no doubt due to help from CH and application from Solly. It will be interesting to see if this improvement continues as he is likely to have to do more defending this season than last.
Da Man Clay
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Comparing a silky Spanish winger afraid of a tackle to an aggressive English CF is a strange choice. I suppose Alan Shearer lost it about 25 as well.
Murray 17
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You're obviously not a fan.
7 yellow cards in 43 games isn't a bad tally, so either 36 referees were completely unaware of his fouling, or they saw it as part and parcel of a contact sport.
His one red card was debatable, although I can accept to the letter of the law it was red.
BensGrandad
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I think it is a case of him giving back what he gets but at times it does seem a little excessive Would you rather have that or a striker who doesnt get in where the boots are flying?