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Study finds magic mushrooms are the safest recreational drug



easynow

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https://www.theguardian.com/society...ogenic-mushrooms-safest-recreational-drug-lsd

Of the more than 12,000 people who reported taking psilocybin hallucinogenic mushrooms in 2016, just 0.2% of them said they needed emergency medical treatment – a rate at least five times lower than that for MDMA, LSD and cocaine.

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“Magic mushrooms are one of the safest drugs in the world,” said Adam Winstock, a consultant addiction psychiatrist and founder of the Global Drug Survey, pointing out that the bigger risk was people picking and eating the wrong mushrooms.

“Death from toxicity is almost unheard of with poisoning with more dangerous fungi being a much greater risk in terms of serious harms.”

Global Drug Survey 2017, with almost 120,000 participants in 50 countries, is the world’s biggest annual drug survey, with questions that cover the types of substances people take, patterns of use and whether they experienced any negative effects.

Overall, 28,000 people said they had taken magic mushrooms at some point in their lives, with 81.7% seeking a “moderate psychedelic experience” and the “enhancement of environment and social interactions”.
 














wakeytom

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Apart from making you feel violently nauseous, lose your sense of scale to the detriment of avoiding traffic and have several hours of existential crises, I think they're well safe. Would have had more fun slotting my sorry balls in a vice.

Never done them myself, however I would suggest that as with most things its all about setting. In the middle of the beautiful countryside with friends and no busy roads would probably eradicate most of the problems you raise, and there must be ways to level out the nausea?
 


easynow

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Apart from making you feel violently nauseous, lose your sense of scale to the detriment of avoiding traffic and have several hours of existential crises, I think they're well safe. Would have had more fun slotting my sorry balls in a vice.

ok mate.
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Birdie Boy

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But there will be millions more people taking alcohol than mushrooms, so doesn't really reflect like for like.

Did mushrooms once, didn't like it and did not harm myself or others. I have hurt myself and others when drinking alcohol so does refute my first point but have drunk thousands of pints of alcohol!
 


Billy the Fish

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Never done them myself, however I would suggest that as with most things its all about setting. In the middle of the beautiful countryside with friends and no busy roads would probably eradicate most of the problems you raise, and there must be ways to level out the nausea?

Same with all mind benders, do it in a safe place with people you trust and look after each other.
 


easynow

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But there will be millions more people taking alcohol than mushrooms, so doesn't really reflect like for like.

Did mushrooms once, didn't like it and did not harm myself or others. I have hurt myself and others when drinking alcohol so does refute my first point but have drunk thousands of pints of alcohol!

Scientists at Imperial College London induced intense psychedelic trips in 12 people using high doses of the banned substance psilocybin.
A week after the experience all the volunteers were depression-free, and three months later five still had no symptoms of the condition.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/05/17/magic-mushrooms-lifts-severe-depression-in-trial/

Magic mushrooms lift severe depression in clinical trial
Magic mushrooms have lifted severe depression in a dozen volunteers in a clinical trial, raising scientists’ hopes that the psychedelic experiences beloved of the Aztecs and the hippy counter-culture of the 1970s could one day become mainstream medicine.
https://www.theguardian.com/science...ooms-lift-severe-depression-in-clinical-trial

New research published on Tuesday in the Journal of the Royal Society Interface suggests that psilocybin disrupts communication networks in the brain, causing them to connect in novel ways. When regions of the brain that don't normally talk directly to one another cross signals, the result is a trip. Understanding how and why trips can be so profoundly transformative has big implications for disciplines like psychiatry, which may one day use psychedelics in various types of therapy.
https://mic.com/articles/102724/sci...why-magic-mushrooms-are-so-magical#.NAW7ZpDdO
 




wakeytom

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But there will be millions more people taking alcohol than mushrooms, so doesn't really reflect like for like.

Did mushrooms once, didn't like it and did not harm myself or others. I have hurt myself and others when drinking alcohol so does refute my first point but have drunk thousands of pints of alcohol!

But the table does not show the amount of people harmed as that would be no comparison, rather it shows percentage chance of harm happening based on stats iirc so the amount of users is somewhat irrelevant
 


wakeytom

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Scientists at Imperial College London induced intense psychedelic trips in 12 people using high doses of the banned substance psilocybin.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/05/17/magic-mushrooms-lifts-severe-depression-in-trial/

Magic mushrooms lift severe depression in clinical trial
Magic mushrooms have lifted severe depression in a dozen volunteers in a clinical trial, raising scientists’ hopes that the psychedelic experiences beloved of the Aztecs and the hippy counter-culture of the 1970s could one day become mainstream medicine.
https://www.theguardian.com/science...ooms-lift-severe-depression-in-clinical-trial

New research published on Tuesday in the Journal of the Royal Society Interface suggests that psilocybin disrupts communication networks in the brain, causing them to connect in novel ways. When regions of the brain that don't normally talk directly to one another cross signals, the result is a trip. Understanding how and why trips can be so profoundly transformative has big implications for disciplines like psychiatry, which may one day use psychedelics in various types of therapy.
https://mic.com/articles/102724/sci...why-magic-mushrooms-are-so-magical#.NAW7ZpDdO

Please don't come with things like facts from scientists and doctors. It's illegal and therefore cannot have any positives. However cigarettes and alcohol are legal so people will defend them all day long
 








Birdie Boy

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But the table does not show the amount of people harmed as that would be no comparison, rather it shows percentage chance of harm happening based on stats iirc so the amount of users is somewhat irrelevant

But it is based on stats which presumably is from hospital reports or surveys of people. So there would still be many more people in hospital and doing surveys that would have had alcohol rather than mushrooms.

I am not saying mushroom, the magic variety, aren't safe. I have no idea to be honest.
 


Billy the Fish

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Scientists at Imperial College London induced intense psychedelic trips in 12 people using high doses of the banned substance psilocybin.
A week after the experience all the volunteers were depression-free, and three months later five still had no symptoms of the condition.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/05/17/magic-mushrooms-lifts-severe-depression-in-trial/

Magic mushrooms lift severe depression in clinical trial
Magic mushrooms have lifted severe depression in a dozen volunteers in a clinical trial, raising scientists’ hopes that the psychedelic experiences beloved of the Aztecs and the hippy counter-culture of the 1970s could one day become mainstream medicine.
https://www.theguardian.com/science...ooms-lift-severe-depression-in-clinical-trial

New research published on Tuesday in the Journal of the Royal Society Interface suggests that psilocybin disrupts communication networks in the brain, causing them to connect in novel ways. When regions of the brain that don't normally talk directly to one another cross signals, the result is a trip. Understanding how and why trips can be so profoundly transformative has big implications for disciplines like psychiatry, which may one day use psychedelics in various types of therapy.
https://mic.com/articles/102724/sci...why-magic-mushrooms-are-so-magical#.NAW7ZpDdO

Interesting stuff. I'm sure I heard that Sussex Uni were doing an experiment with Ketamine and found it lets you tap into a different level of consciousness.
 










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