Jordan Rhodes

GloryDays · May 18, 2017

On the subject of the supposed refusal to take a penalty yesterday.

Total bottler or, more concerningly, a Huddersfield sympathiser and not wanting to destroy his cult (yes, that's not a typo) status against a former club. Just a personal theory. I'd be really put out if one of our players did something similar.

Thoughts?

Farehamseagull · May 18, 2017

I hadn't even thought about his Huddersfield links.

I think he did the right thing. If you're not feeling mentally right and confident about scoring, you're highly unlikely too. I think it's a bit unfair the stick he's getting as was the stick players like Ince got at Euro 96.

Simon Morgan · May 18, 2017

I'm not so sure about that, it's been a while since he's left Hudds, and holding that kind of moral position would lead to untold abuse from his current club. I'd say it's just unbelievably flakey behaviour from someone who in the summer will become their record signing. Rhodes hasn't really been the same since Boro splashed out on him and Karanka nearly left because he didn't want him. If I were a Wednesday-ite, I'd be quite worried about the flop potential with Rhodes, given the fee and wages. Shame.

BBassic · May 18, 2017

He's a forward. It's literally his job to find the back of the net. He should take a penalty. If he can't handle the pressure he's in the wrong job.

Papa Lazarou · May 18, 2017

Apparently Rhodes has taken 19 penalties in his career, scoring 15 and missing 4; 1 of the misses was against us for Hudds, and specifically Graeme Smith.

He also scored for Blackburn vs BHAFC (Tomasz Kuszczak)

mejonaNO12 aka riskit · May 18, 2017

Five players said they wanted to take them. They are also footballers who can kick a ball well.

It's a no brainer. Let the 5 confident ones take them.

Kinky Gerbil · May 18, 2017

Oddly, not all strikers like taking pens.

His record isn't the best and he was shite when came on, more likely low on confidence

mejonaNO12 aka riskit · May 18, 2017

BBassic said:
He's a forward. It's literally his job to find the back of the net. He should take a penalty. If he can't handle the pressure he's in the wrong job.

Andy Cole, one of the best goalscorers the Premier League has seen, took one penalty in his premier league career. He did OK.

Perkino · May 18, 2017

I'd be most annoyed if we were about to sign a player like this

BBassic · May 18, 2017

mejonaNO12 aka riskit said:
Andy Cole, one of the best goalscorers the Premier League has seen, took one penalty in his premier league career. He did OK.

Good for him. Doesn't change the fact that Rhodes didn't have the balls to step up when it mattered.

mejonaNO12 aka riskit · May 18, 2017

BBassic said:
Good for him. Doesn't change the fact that Rhodes didn't have the balls to step up when it mattered.

I didn't say it did.

GloryDays · May 18, 2017

Kinky Gerbils said:
Oddly, not all strikers like taking pens.

His record isn't the best and he was shite when came on, more likely low on confidence

I agree, except in the shootout scenario. Almost everyone will be touching cloth. I wonder what would have happened if 9 of the 11 players said, "actually, you know what? I don't fancy missing so I'd rather not take one".

Surely the beauty of the penalty shoot out is the lottery of it (or being able to put it in the top corner)! Step up and show your stones.

Edit : I guess he would have had to take one if it went through all of the squad on the night, right? That can't be avoided can it, unless feigning injury or something?

mejonaNO12 aka riskit · May 18, 2017

Kinky Gerbils said:
Oddly, not all strikers like taking pens.

Some strikers to have NEVER taken a penalty.

Ferdinand, Heskey, Solksjaer, Niall Quinn.

Kinky Gerbil · May 18, 2017

GloryDays said:
I agree, except in the shootout scenario. Almost everyone will be touching cloth. I wonder what would have happened if 9 of the 11 players said, "actually, you know what? I don't fancy missing so I'd rather not take one".

Surely the beauty of the penalty shoot out is the lottery of it (or being able to put it in the top corner)! Step up and show your stones.

I'm convinced I've watched shoot outs where no one wanted to take - one of the England shoot outs against Portugal we had a bunch of defenders taking.

Also we don't know if they had trained for them and he was the worst out of the lot!

Kinky Gerbil · May 18, 2017

mejonaNO12 aka riskit said:
Some strikers to have NEVER taken a penalty.

Ferdinand, Heskey, Solksjaer, Niall Quinn.

I seem to recall Crouch being pretty shite at pens?

BBassic · May 18, 2017

mejonaNO12 aka riskit said:
I didn't say it did.

I didn't say you did.

mejonaNO12 aka riskit · May 18, 2017

Kinky Gerbils said:
I seem to recall Crouch being pretty shite at pens?

I suppose the logic is, many strikers 'qualities' rely on their goalscoring instinct. You often see players completely LOSE IT when they have time to think yet they can score when they have to just react.

The penalty is the ultimate in having time to think about it.

Biscuit · May 18, 2017

BBassic said:
I didn't say you did.

He didn't say you did. And nor did I.

Biscuit · May 18, 2017

mejonaNO12 aka riskit said:
I suppose the logic is, many strikers 'qualities' rely on their goalscoring instinct. You often see players completely LOSE IT when they have time to think yet they can score when they have to just react.

The penalty is the ultimate in having time to think about it.

On the flip side, players who are bloody atrocious in front of goal can be great penalty takers. See: John Piercy

It's all about the mentality.

Beanstalk · May 18, 2017

Think the flack he is getting is all about money rather than balls. If we had signed a striker for £10,000,000 (Almost double MASSIVE's previous record fee), who was being paid a solid £60,000 pw, and it came to the crunch moment of the season and he decided that he didn't feel confident enough to step up, I doubt he'd be forgiven quickly.

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