2 'Red Bulls' in Champs League - how will UEFA spin this?

Stat Brother · May 14, 2017

Red Bull Salzburg sealed their fourth consecutive Austrian Bundesliga title, meaning Uefa will need to make a decision in June on whether RB Leipzig can enter the Champions League.

Uefa rules prohibit clubs with strong links from being in European competition in the same season.

If Uefa rules that only one can enter, Salzburg will be given the place as the higher-finishing team in their league.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39908923

Having both teams in next season's Champions League is clearly in breach of Uefa Article 5 - Integrity of the competition, yet we all know they'll both be allowed to play.

What's the most likely justification?

brightn'ove · May 14, 2017

Red Bull have always found a way to get around the rules. Can't see this being any different.

Superphil · May 14, 2017

I gave up reading that after reading Uefa and Integrity in the same sentence.

Anyway, They are two different teams in two different countries, with different players, fans etc. The sponsor name in the team name never stopped Bayer Leverkusen being allowed to play, why should it affect the RB sides?

brightn'ove · May 14, 2017

Superphil said:
I gave up reading that after reading Uefa and Integrity in the same sentence.

Anyway, They are two different teams in two different countries, with different players, fans etc. The sponsor name in the team name never stopped Bayer Leverkusen being allowed to play, why should it affect the RB sides?

Or PSV. Leipzig technically don't have Red Bull in their name either.

bhanutz · May 14, 2017

It's not about the sponsors though...Dont RB own both clubs?

Sussex Nomad · May 14, 2017

If they can 'wing' it in F1 I'm sure they'll have enough cash to deem it appropriate in UEFAs rules.

Lurchy · May 14, 2017

There's a good chance that Salzburg might not make it to the group stage of the CL, as they'd need to go through knockout qualification first. Assuming they did get that far, I'd assume they would need to do something similar to the Euro's qualification where they kept Spain and Gibraltar apart - that way it only becomes a problem if both teams get to the final.

Frutos · May 14, 2017

Superphil said:
I gave up reading that after reading Uefa and Integrity in the same sentence.

Anyway, They are two different teams in two different countries, with different players, fans etc. The sponsor name in the team name never stopped Bayer Leverkusen being allowed to play, why should it affect the RB sides?

The issue isn't around either team's individual link with the sponsor, its around the same sponsor owning both teams.

HastingsSeagull · May 14, 2017

If the same individual owned both this would be an issue so I guess it's the same if a single company does

Kinky Gerbil · May 14, 2017

Always found this an odd rule

It's understandable if one club has 5/6 players on loan from the other.

SeagullofMalaysia · May 14, 2017

brightn'ove said:
Or PSV. Leipzig technically don't have Red Bull in their name either.

Lawn Ball Sports :lolol:

Triggaaar · May 14, 2017

Kinky Gerbils said:
Always found this an odd rule

It's understandable if one club has 5/6 players on loan from the other.

If you own both clubs:
1) What if they play each other and you work out that it's financially better for you for one specific team to progress?
2) What your two clubs are due to play the same opposition - do you get the first club to kick the shit out of the opposition to make way for your second club?

You can't have two clubs owned by the same company in the same competition.

Kinky Gerbil · May 14, 2017

Triggaaar said:
If you own both clubs:
1) What if they play each other and you work out that it's financially better for you for one specific team to progress?
2) What your two clubs are due to play the same opposition - do you get the first club to kick the shit out of the opposition to make way for your second club?

You can't have two clubs owned by the same company in the same competition.

It would be pretty obvious if either of those things happen, then action can be taken.

Triggaaar · May 14, 2017

Kinky Gerbils said:
It would be pretty obvious if either of those things happen, then action can be taken.

It wouldn't be obvious at all. If they play each other and one team has a player or two missing due to 'a knock', and one team seems to want it more on the day, what the hell can anyone do? That's just like a standard game of football.

theboybilly · May 14, 2017

Doesn't Roman Abramovich have strong financial ties to a Moscow team that's appeared in the same CL group as Chelsea?

Stat Brother · May 14, 2017

Triggaaar said:
You can't have two clubs owned by the same company in the same competition.

Wanna bet? :wink:

Stat Brother · May 14, 2017

Oh I (we) missed the open goal:-

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Knocky's Nose · May 14, 2017

Triggaaar said:
If you own both clubs:

2) What if your two clubs are due to play the same opposition - do you get the first club to kick the shit out of the opposition to make way for your second club?

LOL !!

"Right lads, you know your jobs. Shin pads on your left, and on your right you'll find a 9mm Luger, with ammunition, and we've slipped a small knife in the back of your shorts if it gets messy and you need to finish the job neatly and quickly.

If you do need to make any tackles, anything above the waist is fine..."

Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo · May 14, 2017

theboybilly said:
Doesn't Roman Abramovich have strong financial ties to a Moscow team that's appeared in the same CL group as Chelsea?

Abramovich sold his interest in the company that sponsored CSKA quite a few years ago, I think the new owners went on to end the sponsorship deal just after.

Superphil · May 14, 2017

Frutos said:
The issue isn't around either team's individual link with the sponsor, its around the same sponsor owning both teams.

Aren't Watford and an Italian team owned by the same person. Also, the bloke at Leeds, I thought he had links to a team in Italy too. The people/business that owns Man City are the same as those that own NY City too. Don't really see what the problem is, of course I can understand why you can't have two sides in the same league owned by the same person, but in different countries :shrug:

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