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    Depends.

    If you attend a historically black college for example under this administration they have received more financially than any previous administrations assigned to them.

    If you support prison reform you have seen some movement towards addressing the issues.

    If you're anti-interventionist then you'll view Trump not starting any wars as a good thing.


    Would you rather no wars and Trump acting like a dick in the media

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    Trump being all fake and diplomatic yet still starting foreign conflicts?

    I know which one I'd prefer.

    People probably considered Obama a decent person, yet he was far more warmongering than Trump has proven to be thus far. That's how public perception can be totally warped by bias.

    If Trump acts like a complete wanker but starts no new foreign conflicts I'd take that, wouldn't you?
    Your view is warped.

    Obama always had the good intention to try and limit conflict but circumstances were frequently against him.

    I wonder how you would feel as a woman confronted by a president who openly advocates grab them by the p**** , just because he has the power?

    Please only provide an answer without whataboutism, as that is no defence.
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      Your view is warped.
      Why? Because it doesn't match yours?

      My views match those of a more diverse group of peoples than the partisan bias of most people in this thread.

      Obama always had the good intention to try and limit conflict but circumstances were frequently against him.
      You can't make this statement as an absolute truth.

      I wonder how you would feel as a woman confronted by a president who openly advocates grab them by the p**** , just because he has the power?
      You'd be better to ask all the women who voted for him, You'd get a better answer from them than me.

      We have example from a previous President that this kind of thing really doesn't matter to the voting population so perhaps it's not that big of an issue to a lot of people.

      Please only provide an answer without whataboutism, as that is no defence.
      You mean an answer without highlighting previous precedence?

      It's strange how this term "whataboutism" appeared to be used as a deflection of hypocrisy.
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      I don't think this is what will happen. There's a big chance he gets re-elected because of all this.

      To put all the division and hatred at his feet is being disingenuous. When Hilary called a large section of US citizens a "basket of deplorables" it showed the division comes from both sides of the aisle.

      There's a lot of potential this will all backfire big time on the Democrats and will cost quite a few of their members seats in the house. It's already cost them a Senator who switched parties.

      To beat him all they had to do was provide popular policies yet all they've done so far is attack him personally which hasn't had the effect they hoped it would.
      Your absolutely correct. Many Americans are angry at the Democrats for the perceived manipulation of the Institution at getting Trumps Impeachment hearing this far. It has the same connotations as certain political parties had manipulating our constitution and Parliament for their own political end, look how that turned out. Remember Trump, however much disliked by some, is a duly elected President. As things stand the Democrats may well have handed Trump 2020, just as Corbyn and Swinson handed Boris 2019. Time will tell but for me the Democrats are digging their own grave.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Tyrone Biggums View Post
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      Depends.

      If you attend a historically black college for example under this administration they have received more financially than any previous administrations assigned to them.

      If you support prison reform you have seen some movement towards addressing the issues.

      If you're anti-interventionist then you'll view Trump not starting any wars as a good thing.


      Would you rather no wars and Trump acting like a dick in the media

      OR

      Trump being all fake and diplomatic yet still starting foreign conflicts?

      I know which one I'd prefer.

      People probably considered Obama a decent person, yet he was far more warmongering than Trump has proven to be thus far. That's how public perception can be totally warped by bias.

      If Trump acts like a complete wanker but starts no new foreign conflicts I'd take that, wouldn't you?
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      Yes, that is true, but what personal particular interest do you have in the US?
      I plan to move with my employment to Columbus, Indiana (home of Vice President, Mike Pence) and have dual citizenship in the next 5 years.It would be part of an advancement package. It is required to move to the US to accept the employment advancement. It does come with a large salary rise. My mother, living in Chicago, at the age of 89 years, is American.
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      So anything less than Tottenham depending on the sides' difference in points and GD is that degree of "'ell"

      If that is the case Brighton "ell is getting a bit hotter.
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      I don't think this is what will happen. There's a big chance he gets re-elected because of all this.

      To put all the division and hatred at his feet is being disingenuous. When Hilary called a large section of US citizens a "basket of deplorables" it showed the division comes from both sides of the aisle.

      There's a lot of potential this will all backfire big time on the Democrats and will cost quite a few of their members seats in the house. It's already cost them a Senator who switched parties.

      To beat him all they had to do was provide popular policies yet all they've done so far is attack him personally which hasn't had the effect they hoped it would.
      Nowhere near how awful Trump has attacked his own employees in the White House! Trump is a raving looney!!!!

      You don't even read his hateful tweets, do you?

      Oppo the MLS side, Trump's slogan is DC Divided!
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      So anything less than Tottenham depending on the sides' difference in points and GD is that degree of "'ell"

      If that is the case Brighton "ell is getting a bit hotter.
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      Would you rather no wars and Trump acting like a dick in the media

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      Trump being all fake and diplomatic yet still starting foreign conflicts?

      I know which one I'd prefer.
      There's a myriad of options, another being no Trump and no wars. I know which one I'd prefer.
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      Your absolutely correct. Many Americans are angry at the Democrats for the perceived manipulation of the Institution at getting Trumps Impeachment hearing this far. It has the same connotations as certain political parties had manipulating our constitution and Parliament for their own political end, look how that turned out. Remember Trump, however much disliked by some, is a duly elected President. As things stand the Democrats may well have handed Trump 2020, just as Corbyn and Swinson handed Boris 2019. Time will tell but for me the Democrats are digging their own grave.
      I don't dispute at all that what the Democrats have done has hurt the country a great deal. They allowed a criminal US President to get elected and are currently blowing the next (2020) election by not putting up a strong candidate. That doesn't excuse Trump from the awful things he does as president. Number one is violating the law to get himself re-elected.
      So anything less than Tottenham depending on the sides' difference in points and GD is that degree of "'ell"

      If that is the case Brighton "ell is getting a bit hotter.
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      Turkey/Syria?
      That was already and existing thing prior to 2016.

      They were diplomatically and militarily involved in the Syrian Civil war since around 2011.
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      Nowhere near how awful Trump has attacked his own employees in the White House! Trump is a raving looney!!!!

      You don't even read his hateful tweets, do you?

      Oppo the MLS side, Trump's slogan is DC Divided!

      Tweets have zero relevance. Tweeting is like a drunk at the pub shouting at people. Who cares.

      You need to read between the lines. Here's an example of how thinking tweets mean anything while you're missing the real stories worth looking into.


      Democrats to the public: Trump is the most dangerous person in the world we need to stop him...

      Reality: Democrats approved 733 billion to military funding and overwhelmingly voted to increase spying powers for the government.

      Do you not see how people are being taken for a fool by believing the Democrats bullshit? If Trump is the most dangerous person on the planet why would you green light that amount of money for him to use on military?

      If he's so dangerous why are they enabling him?

      It's literally saying one thing but doing another. How can a logical critical mind not look at that and go hang on, something very fishy is going on.

      If the Democrats truly believed the crap they spin you they'd be opposing such military spending, not approving it.
      It's a marathon, not a sprint.

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