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Southern's new luxury trains





studio150

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2011
29,553
On the Border
Not only a luxury train but one that will run on time.

Just think how pleasurable the commute from Brighton to London would be will Japanese efficiency and bullet trains on the line.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
69,871
Reckon the new Thameslink trains are pretty decent. They're no longer the poor relation to Southern - who will hopefully soon be consigned to the dustbin of history like the late and unlamented Connex before them.
 




Doc Lynam

I hate the Daily Mail
Jun 19, 2011
7,186
Not only a luxury train but one that will run on time.

Just think how pleasurable the commute from Brighton to London would be will Japanese efficiency and bullet trains on the line.

You're dreaming that technology is only 50 years old, let's keep it Victorian here!
 




essbee1

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Jun 25, 2014
4,078
Trouble is that in this country we have no respect for other people's property - so it would
be pointless introducing such a beautiful beast.
 


Not only a luxury train but one that will run on time.

Just think how pleasurable the commute from Brighton to London would be will Japanese efficiency and bullet trains on the line.

The only way to run high speed, luxury bullet trains on the Brighton to London line would be to close most of the stations and reduce the capacity of the service to ensure that far fewer people could travel than want to.
 


Doc Lynam

I hate the Daily Mail
Jun 19, 2011
7,186
The only way to run high speed, luxury bullet trains on the Brighton to London line would be to close most of the stations and reduce the capacity of the service to ensure that far fewer people could travel than want to.

That's the kind of can't do attitude we applaud on the trains!
 












beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,264
You're dreaming that technology is only 50 years old, let's keep it Victorian here!

theres the thing, we have a Victorian network and a deference to keeping things as they were. Japan will cast out the old in a heart beat for the latest technology, razing the old buildings in the way.
 


Lindfield by the Pond

Well-known member
Jan 10, 2009
1,886
Lindfield (near the pond)
theres the thing, we have a Victorian network and a deference to keeping things as they were. Japan will cast out the old in a heart beat for the latest technology, razing the old buildings in the way.
Been to Japan twice over last 30 years. First went in 1991 and bought a ticket on the Shinkanzen line. The cashier worked out what I was to pay using an abacus. There were beads flying everywhere. Was amazed that to travel on one of the most technologically advanced pieces of machinery in the world was all done with beads.

Second trip in 2008 was all arranged through facsimile - a device many still continue to use. So yes they are advanced, but they have quite a few cultural barriers to using it to the full.
 


Jul 7, 2003
8,571
Reckon the new Thameslink trains are pretty decent. They're no longer the poor relation to Southern - who will hopefully soon be consigned to the dustbin of history like the late and unlamented Connex before them.

Both franchises are owned by the same company. Those new Thameslink trains might look nice from the outside but are designed to get more people standing as they go through London (hence the extra space between the seats) and the new seats are very uncomfortable to sit on for any length of time.
 




hoveboyslim

Well-known member
Feb 7, 2004
556
Hove
Both franchises are owned by the same company. Those new Thameslink trains might look nice from the outside but are designed to get more people standing as they go through London (hence the extra space between the seats) and the new seats are very uncomfortable to sit on for any length of time.

That and there are no tables or even pull down trays so it's pretty much impossible to work on one and you have nowhere to place a drink apart from on the floor. I hate them.
 


Aug 31, 2009
1,880
Brighton
Not only a luxury train but one that will run on time.

Just think how pleasurable the commute from Brighton to London would be will Japanese efficiency and bullet trains on the line.

This is no doubt true but cultural qualities have their good and bad sides. The Japanese culture has a lot of strange offshoots thanks to the hyper-sensitive obsessions with form, dignity and efficiency. Not sure I'd make the trade.

That said - Island folk are generally supposed to be a bit weird (without realising it) Now what's our deal, that considered? ???
 


mrhairy

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2004
1,248
Brighton
Been on both SR and JR and haven't seen many SR OBS's bow as they leave the carriage. Why are the seats on the new SR trains like ironing boards that don't even have a table pull down or cup holder. JR is as good as it gets and you will never see a passenger with their shoes on the seats.
 


GT49er

Well-known member
Feb 1, 2009
46,467
Gloucester
Southern may be slow, with lots of delays - but do you really need sleeper trains on the London - Brighton service? It must have really gone down a lot since I lived in those parts!
 


deletebeepbeepbeep

Well-known member
May 12, 2009
20,887
Reckon the new Thameslink trains are pretty decent. They're no longer the poor relation to Southern - who will hopefully soon be consigned to the dustbin of history like the late and unlamented Connex before them.

Are these the ones with no sockets, no wifi, no armrests and no tray to rest anything on?
 



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