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[Finance] The cryptocurrency (Bitcoin etc) thread







Goring-by-Seagull

Well-known member
Jan 5, 2012
1,980
I bought 20 quid’s worth at about 0.003. I figured that losing 20 quid is annoying (although the sky boost bet covered it from tonight) but if and that is a massive if it could even get back to one dollar then that is about 6 grand (it is late so I am probably wrong but third of a cent so one cent would be 60 quid so a dollar 6000). If it gets back to all time high I can retire. Obviously it is a massive long shot but but worse than lotto tickets.

I traded some other "excess" shitcoins to get me to round numbers into it this morning. Got 285,000 for I think £1.35. Oh yeah, I'm one for the big risks.
 


Marshy

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2003
19,719
FRUIT OF THE BLOOM
Sorry, but that's just silly. They're ALL going to zero, just some quicker than others. They. Have. Zero. Utility. It's a shitstorm of shitcoins :shrug:

I know your not a fan THPP, but that statement is just plain false. 99% of them as i stated offer very little if nothing, but there are some that are in use and have been for many years, solving real problems.
 


bhafc99

Well-known member
Oct 14, 2003
7,086
Dubai
Read something the other day that the spiralling cost of electricity means that it now costs around $25k to ‘mine’ one bitcoin. Obviously this is up substantially from a few months ago.

At the same time, the value of one bitcoin has fallen dramatically - currently around $27.4k, compared to $64.4k just 8 months ago.

What happens when it costs more to make Bitcoin than it’s actually worth?
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,303
Read something the other day that the spiralling cost of electricity means that it now costs around $25k to ‘mine’ one bitcoin. Obviously this is up substantially from a few months ago.

At the same time, the value of one bitcoin has fallen dramatically - currently around $27.4k, compared to $64.4k just 8 months ago.

What happens when it costs more to make Bitcoin than it’s actually worth?

in theory the miners stop mining, this reduces the difficulty so it returns to profitablity.

in reality the massive infrastructure investment means they'll carry on mining, because 90% roi is better than 0.
 






my pension pot is wrecked due to crypto (my own fault before anyone says so) but i essentially put over the last 35% of my pension savings in, dca'ing as prices fell. trouble is the bstards havent stopped dropping. got mullered with luna, someone stole $5k of my money on that alone (it FEELS like theft and based on many different threads ive read, seems that there WAS some collusion before the complete collapse). hadnt checked for a few days as im clearly not selling when some of my coins are 80-90% down but was horrified to see 30%+ drops over 3 days - even ETH which only just missed going back to 2k last week now at 1450!! thats 25% drop in ETH - wtf ..

NB any punctuation left off is intentional as im too fekking angry to fix it!
 


Dibdab

Well-known member
Sep 28, 2021
903
my pension pot is wrecked due to crypto (my own fault before anyone says so) but i essentially put over the last 35% of my pension savings in, dca'ing as prices fell. trouble is the bstards havent stopped dropping. got mullered with luna, someone stole $5k of my money on that alone (it FEELS like theft and based on many different threads ive read, seems that there WAS some collusion before the complete collapse). hadnt checked for a few days as im clearly not selling when some of my coins are 80-90% down but was horrified to see 30%+ drops over 3 days - even ETH which only just missed going back to 2k last week now at 1450!! thats 25% drop in ETH - wtf ..

NB any punctuation left off is intentional as im too fekking angry to fix it!

Sorry to hear. Your ETH will recover in time and be worth far more. LUNA was always high risk as are many of the newer projects and can easily capitulate. The golden rule of crypto is only invest what you are prepared to lose.
 




beefypigeon

Well-known member
Aug 14, 2008
960
I'm a complete Crypto novice for sure but the prices of both Eth and Bitcoin have absolutely tanked this week. Assume it's just something to ride out and hope it recovers in the long-term?

What are the experts saying? Good time to buy or are the prices going to continue to fall?
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,303
I'm a complete Crypto novice for sure but the prices of both Eth and Bitcoin have absolutely tanked this week. Assume it's just something to ride out and hope it recovers in the long-term?

What are the experts saying? Good time to buy or are the prices going to continue to fall?

experts dont know, except there is no support at these levels so a lot of expectation it goes lower or quick rebound. the market is following macro now, which looks poor, add to this a risk Celsius (major lender) may blow up and become a forced seller.

if averaging in is prefered strategy, carry on. otherwise be prepared for a drop - weekly 200MA at 22.5k and might provide support.
 


ForestRowSeagull

Well-known member
Jan 6, 2011
954
Now Brixton
IMO just think of Crypto as global equities x3 in terms of volatility. In market downturns they'll tank and will fly on the other side. Forget about thinking of them as a hedge for inflation, equity risk or anything else. Just another risk-on asset.
 




Dibdab

Well-known member
Sep 28, 2021
903
I'm a complete Crypto novice for sure but the prices of both Eth and Bitcoin have absolutely tanked this week. Assume it's just something to ride out and hope it recovers in the long-term?

What are the experts saying? Good time to buy or are the prices going to continue to fall?

If you are a long term investor then this isn't the worst place to start dollar cost averaging on Bitcoin, although it can go far lower still, it is in a zone that historical analysis suggests will be superseded in time . The big unknown here is how crypto performs in recession, but to be honest all assets are going to the dogs in that world so it wont be unique. I would personally avoid alts right now. They will follow bitcoins lead, and if bitcoin drops they will drop much harder in the short term.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,303
ETH is now below the 2018 high. people been waiting for a capitulation, this looks a lot like one.
 






beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,303
though to be clear, if this is the bottom, its a bottom early 2019 style with a long road back, not the 2020 style. the impending recession will impact investment in anything, so likely could be longer. im expecting nothing positive until after the next US interest rate setting, probably weeks bobbling around until gentle up move.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
70,161
Can't be long now til the Bart forms to wipe out the BTC shorters

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Bit of a shame really, would be funny as f*ck to see Michael Saylor have to dig deep to pay MicroStrategy's margin call on their all-in BTC strategy
 










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