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    Where on earth did I say ban religious belief? You really do twist and turn and invent bollocks to point score.

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      What you are saying in essence is your beliefs on gay marriage or gay anything for that matter trump the right to have free religious belief.
      i detest religion, but the law and the hyperbole surrounding rights to religious freedom are at odds with each other and hypocritical.

      Give full religious freedom including the right to be against homosexuality or tell the truth that religious people are not free to worship as their holy book says.
      What a load of hyperbole poppycock. Where have I said my belief that gay people should have EQUAL rights to everyone else trumps the right of people to have free religious belief ? A candidate is free to hold any religious beliefs they want in exactly the same way I'm free to withhold my vote from them if I think their beliefs are in direct opposition to mine. If a candidate is likely to use their religious beliefs to influence a vote in parliament then I should have a right to know their religious beliefs when they are trying to win my vote. If I voted for someone not knowing their religious beliefs would mean they voted to ban abortion or not to allow gay marriage then I'd feel conned.
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      You didnt, i never said you did. I have not twisted anything.
      i posed a question with a question mark clearly visible.......learn basic English and stop being a drama queen
      Christ, you really are a twit. No wonder you're on here so much, I genuinely cannot imagine anyone wanting to listen to your ceaseless bullshit in real life.

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      Then lets do religion then
      lets ask all the candidates about evolution (nutters) lets ask them muslim or christian if they prey to the invisible sky fairy (nutters)

      i would rather keep religion out of it but i presume you wont mind me mentioning everytime a name comes up whether they are atheist muslim christian or something else what their preference is
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      Put the price up and demand goes down - isn't that what we were taught in our first lesson of A-level economics? I certainly was.

      So, put the price of doing business in the UK up and demand to be here and to be based here will go down. Of course, corporate tax is just one component of the pricing model involved with doing business here, but it's a pretty significant one.

      Too simple a view? Maybe. But I look to Ireland, who have a rate of 12.5% which has seen considerable investment - some a bit shady, but much not - since the financial crisis.

      Michael Noonan, Irish Minister for Finance speaking about the effect on the Irish economy of their tax rate: "Peoples’ lives are improving with more at work than at any time since the onset of the downturn. We no longer need to impose swingeing cuts to public services, rather we have room to invest in services and infrastructure."

      As @peterward says, above it's ideological. One thing we've all become aware of is that large corporations are very good at being tax efficient. I can't see that putting our corporation tax rate up by 37% is going to encourage them to pay more into UK plc.
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      Put the price up and demand goes down - isn't that what we were taught in our first lesson of A-level economics? I certainly was.

      So, put the price of doing business in the UK up and demand to be here and to be based here will go down. Of course, corporate tax is just one component of the pricing model involved with doing business here, but it's a pretty significant one.

      Too simple a view? Maybe. But I look to Ireland, who have a rate of 12.5% which has seen considerable investment - some a bit shady, but much not - since the financial crisis.

      Michael Noonan, Irish Minister for Finance speaking about the effect on the Irish economy of their tax rate: "Peoples’ lives are improving with more at work than at any time since the onset of the downturn. We no longer need to impose swingeing cuts to public services, rather we have room to invest in services and infrastructure."

      As @peterward says, above it's ideological. One thing we've all become aware of is that large corporations are very good at being tax efficient. I can't see that putting our corporation tax rate up by 37% is going to encourage them to pay more into UK plc.
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      Same hers although my wife got a flyer from her through the post. I was really hoping she or her supporters were going to knock the door. Maybe she has realised how out of step she is with most lical people and like her leader only does sound bites
      I'm up in Hangleton and I've had nothing that mentioned Kristy Adams by name at all. I had a letter from Theresa May telling me that Jeremy Corbyn is awful and I shouldn't vote for him but didn't give any reason to vote for her other than "Strong and Stable", then I got a glossy A4 thing with various reasons as to why Jeremy Corbyn is terrible and I shouldn't vote for him.

      It has really been a pitiful campaign by the Tories. I've not seen anyone actually say "I'm voting Tory because they're doing X and Y and Z", it's just "I'm voting Tory because *bad things about Labour".
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      I thought you were meant to be like the Queen, non political !!
      I am. I'll have a go at everyone.
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      Put the price up and demand goes down - isn't that what we were taught in our first lesson of A-level economics? I certainly was.

      So, put the price of doing business in the UK up and demand to be here and to be based here will go down. Of course, corporate tax is just one component of the pricing model involved with doing business here, but it's a pretty significant one.

      Too simple a view? Maybe. But I look to Ireland, who have a rate of 12.5% which has seen considerable investment - some a bit shady, but much not - since the financial crisis.

      Michael Noonan, Irish Minister for Finance speaking about the effect on the Irish economy of their tax rate: "Peoples’ lives are improving with more at work than at any time since the onset of the downturn. We no longer need to impose swingeing cuts to public services, rather we have room to invest in services and infrastructure."

      As @peterward says, above it's ideological. One thing we've all become aware of is that large corporations are very good at being tax efficient. I can't see that putting our corporation tax rate up by 37% is going to encourage them to pay more into UK plc.
      Interesting case, Ireland.

      http://business.financialpost.com/in...ls-china-india

      IDA Ireland notes that many companies, however, choose the country not for tax-inversion purposes, but because it makes a natural launching point for European operations. In addition to the low tax rate, Ireland has a comparatively high level of workers with post-secondary education, more affordable office space and a large multinational presence.

      “Yes, we have a very competitive corporate tax rate, but without having the other factors that go into making a decision on where to choose in order to build your sustainable competitive company, corporate tax rate is irrelevant,” New York-based Dowdall said.
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      We're not the USA thank Christ - and they take it to another level. But I was merely responding to your assertion that Brits don't do religion as part of politics as absolute nonsense. The mainstream parties in Northern Ireland are all centered around religion, the Scottish Conservatives were once Unionists and only got the proddy vote, Khan v Goldsmith was fought out over allegations of what classifies an "extremist Muslim", Corbyn and Livingstone are rightly taken to task for their blatent anti-Semitism, Farron won't support gay marriage in parliament because he's religious. It's woven in to the fabric.

      Kristy Adams knew her past would come out as soon as she put herself in the public eye. The sad thing is she seems unable or unwilling to say even what you're saying, let's leave it out and debate the issues. Like May she's virtually disappeared, even @Chicken Run has noticed.
      lets get one thing clear Tim Farron and the gay question is one thing and is part of a religious belief, i dont think its fair to beat him with a stick about it. The blatant anti semitism from the Corbyn brigade is not a religious belief it is hate speech......pure and simple and is not born out of religion......it is born out of ideology.....and it is vile
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