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Titanic

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Updates on Championship finances for 2015/6

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MattBackHome

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Jul 7, 2003
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Nigh on impossible to turn a profit unless you either have parachute payments or do a Blackpool and restrict all investment in squad wages (from memory they were in the black the year they went down?). Shame because it's such a phenomenal league to be in, in terms of excitement and 'stories'.
 


Uter

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Aug 5, 2008
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The land of chocolate
So collectively over £1.1 billion in debt. What happened to Bolton's debt? I thought they owed well over £100m.
 




Hiney

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Jul 5, 2003
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So collectively over £1.1 billion in debt. What happened to Bolton's debt? I thought they owed well over £100m.

I think it was [MENTION=31]El Presidente[/MENTION] who said that Bolton are refusing to submit accounts, due to the cluster**** in their boardroom.
 


The Andy Naylor Fan Club

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Aug 31, 2012
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Now, I could make myself out to be a complete and utter plonker here but how can the gross debt to the Albion be £171m ?
I thought Mr Bloom had personally financed the stadium and training ground and as such the Albion pay an annual rent on theses facilities and as such that there is no direct financial burden to BHAFC.

Awaits the flaming...:flameboun
 


Titanic

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Now, I could make myself out to be a complete and utter plonker here but how can the gross debt to the Albion be £171m ?
I thought Mr Bloom had personally financed the stadium and training ground and as such the Albion pay an annual rent on theses facilities and as such that there is no direct financial burden to BHAFC.

Awaits the flaming...:flameboun

I think Tony uses interest free, unsecured loans to finance the club, and periodically converts some of it into shares (effectively writing it off as he owns the vast majority already).
 




Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
19,704
Eastbourne
I think it was [MENTION=31]El Presidente[/MENTION] who said that Bolton are refusing to submit accounts, due to the cluster**** in their boardroom.

My brother in law works for them and has told me that twice recently, the bailiffs have been in seizing stuff.
 


PILTDOWN MAN

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Sep 15, 2004
18,685
Hurst Green
I think Tony uses interest free, unsecured loans to finance the club, and periodically converts some of it into shares (effectively writing it off as he owns the vast majority already).

But the stadium and training ground are owned by a separate company and the football club rent them. All depends whether you look at the holding company or singularly the football club.
 


beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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I think Tony uses interest free, unsecured loans to finance the club, and periodically converts some of it into shares (effectively writing it off as he owns the vast majority already).

yes, a very tax efficient way of doing things.
 




El Presidente

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Jul 5, 2003
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The Swiss Ramble is the Doctor Evil of football fnance compared to my Mini-Me, but we have put together the same data from the various club accounts, his looks more visually engaging than mine!Championship Wages cost per point 2016.JPG
 


El Presidente

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I think it was [MENTION=31]El Presidente[/MENTION] who said that Bolton are refusing to submit accounts, due to the cluster**** in their boardroom.

There are 'issues' at Bolton involving Dean Holdsworth, and some rather expensive loans.

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El Presidente

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Jul 5, 2003
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Now, I could make myself out to be a complete and utter plonker here but how can the gross debt to the Albion be £171m ?
I thought Mr Bloom had personally financed the stadium and training ground and as such the Albion pay an annual rent on theses facilities and as such that there is no direct financial burden to BHAFC.

Awaits the flaming...:flameboun

Tony Bloom had loaned the club £171 million at 30 June 2016, but converted £8 million of this into shares in July 2016.

I suspect he has also lent the club a substantial sum during the year, as I am predicting, should we be promoted, losses exceeding £35-40 million for the year to 30 June 2017.

TB's total investment is the loan of £171 million, plus 93% of the share capital, giving a further £81 million, which adds up to £252 million.

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Moshe Gariani

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Mar 10, 2005
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I suspect he has also lent the club a substantial sum during the year, as I am predicting, should we be promoted, losses exceeding £35-40 million for the year to 30 June 2017.

TB's total investment is the loan of £171 million, plus 93% of the share capital, giving a further £81 million, which adds up to £252 million]
So TB's spend on the Albion will be c.£300m by the end of this season....?

That's quite a lot of money.
 












Notters

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Oct 20, 2003
24,869
Guiseley
But how much has Hove Albion lost?

Always bugs me when the media gives every team except us their full name.
 


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