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Disallowed penalty/goal for Newcastle last night...



lizard

lizard

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Jul 14, 2005
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Not seen it mentioned, but if it is please merge/delete whatever, and abuse me for my clear buffoonery.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/04/05/newcastle-uniteds-bizarre-disallowed-penalty-has-left-everyone/

To paraphrase:
Newcastle get awarded penalty.
Ritchie takes it and sticks it in.
Penalty disallowed for encroachment of Gayle.
Burton given a free-kick.
:facepalm:
But he's apologised, so that makes everything all right.

Could you imagine if that happened here!

(Also, another nice touch is they still have Newcastle as second.)

:albion2:
 






hans kraay fan club

hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
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Chandlers Ford
It really is amazing that nobody on here has mentioned it, until now.
 








Triggaaar

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lizard said:
Could you imagine if that happened here!
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Newcastle should have been given a penalty - they weren't. Happened here many times.
 








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daveinprague

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Oct 1, 2009
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Didn't this happen to us against Palarse at Stamford Bridge or was it disallowed because of palace players encroaching? ...which is much worse. I'm drunk/and stoned and can't remember
 


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The Fish

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Jan 5, 2017
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Triggaaar said:
Newcastle should have been given a penalty - they weren't. Happened here many times.
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We were given a penalty, we scored the penalty, then that goal was incorrectly ruled out because the referee and his team didn't know the rules. The only way Burton should have got a free kick is if Ritchie missed and only Newcastle players encroached before the ball was kicked.

Not the same as not getting a penalty awarded.
 


Triggaaar

Triggaaar

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The Fish said:
We were given a penalty, we scored the penalty, then that goal was incorrectly ruled out because the referee and his team didn't know the rules.
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But your player was guilty of encroachment, right? So the goal was correctly ruled out.
 




hans kraay fan club

hans kraay fan club

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The Fish said:
We were given a penalty, we scored the penalty, then that goal was incorrectly ruled out because the referee and his team didn't know the rules. The only way Burton should have got a free kick is if Ritchie missed and only Newcastle players encroached before the ball was kicked.

Not the same as not getting a penalty awarded.
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Triggaaar said:
But your player was guilty of encroachment, right? So the goal was correctly ruled out.
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[MENTION=4019]Triggaaar[/MENTION] is right. You're wrong. The goal was absolutely NOT 'incorrectly ruled out'. It was 100% correctly ruled out, for Gayle's very blatant encroachment. Stroud's only mistake was to NOT award you a re-take. So in essence, it is indeed just the same as being denied a clear penalty.
 












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GingerBeerMan

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hans kraay fan club said:
[MENTION=4019]Triggaaar[/MENTION] is right. You're wrong. The goal was absolutely NOT 'incorrectly ruled out'. It was 100% correctly ruled out, for Gayle's very blatant encroachment. Stroud's only mistake was to NOT award you a re-take. So in essence, it is indeed just the same as being denied a clear penalty.
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A clear penalty is still subjective, the enforcement of this rule is not, therefore they're not the same occurance.
 






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The Fish

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Jan 5, 2017
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hans kraay fan club said:
[MENTION=4019]Triggaaar[/MENTION]is right. You're wrong. The goal was absolutely NOT 'incorrectly ruled out'. It was 100% correctly ruled out, for Gayle's very blatant encroachment. Stroud's only mistake was to NOT award you a re-take. So in essence, it is indeed just the same as being denied a clear penalty.
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No, it's fundamentally not. A "clear penalty" remains subjective. The penalty had already been awarded, clear or otherwise, and then the referee failed in his job because of a lack of knowledge a lack of basic competence. It would be like a referee awarding a goal after a team puts the ball in the back of the net directly from the throw-in.
 


hans kraay fan club

hans kraay fan club

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The Fish said:
No, it's fundamentally not. A "clear penalty" remains subjective. The penalty had already been awarded, clear or otherwise, and then the referee failed in his job because of a lack of knowledge a lack of basic competence. It would be like a referee awarding a goal after a team puts the ball in the back of the net directly from the throw-in.
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:shrug: whatever.

At least you'll have something to blame if you lose the title on GD.
 


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