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    Okay, let's be controversial here.

    Was he a terrorist? YES
    Was he a murderer? MOST LIKELY
    Did he cause pain and suffering to many many families? UNDOUBTEDLY
    Did he play a significant part on the peace process? YES
    Did his actions in later life improve the prospects for peace in northern Ireland? YES
    Did his work with Ian Paisley give hope to many families on both sides? HIGHLY LIKELY

    So on balance he seems to have been a sinner who repented. In which case I'm sure the Christians on both sides of this debate will do the Christian thing

    It's probably easier to look at what Colin Parry says today which is that you can't forgive what he did but you have to respect the man he became in later life
    Or you could listen to the family of mother, Joanne Mathers whose murderer McGuiness never named despite strong evidence that he ordered the killings. There was no repent there, the man only gave up guns for immunity from prosecution. Respect him? Nah.
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      Okay, let's be controversial here.

      Was he a terrorist? YES
      Was he a murderer? MOST LIKELY
      Did he cause pain and suffering to many many families? UNDOUBTEDLY
      Did he play a significant part on the peace process? YES
      Did his actions in later life improve the prospects for peace in northern Ireland? YES
      Did his work with Ian Paisley give hope to many families on both sides? HIGHLY LIKELY

      So on balance he seems to have been a sinner who repented. In which case I'm sure the Christians on both sides of this debate will do the Christian thing

      It's probably easier to look at what Colin Parry says today which is that you can't forgive what he did but you have to respect the man he became in later life
      I'm afraid anyone even remotely connected the murder of children can never be anything other than festering scum who's better off dead, no matter how nice a guy you may think he is nowadays.
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      I'm afraid anyone even remotely connected the murder of children can never be anything other than festering scum who's better off dead, no matter how nice a guy you may think he is nowadays.
      That rules out most politicians then.
      Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
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      Bet he gets a full state funeral.
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      Okay, let's be controversial here.

      Was he a terrorist? YES
      Was he a murderer? MOST LIKELY
      Did he cause pain and suffering to many many families? UNDOUBTEDLY
      Did he play a significant part on the peace process? YES
      Did his actions in later life improve the prospects for peace in northern Ireland? YES
      Did his work with Ian Paisley give hope to many families on both sides? HIGHLY LIKELY

      So on balance he seems to have been a sinner who repented. In which case I'm sure the Christians on both sides of this debate will do the Christian thing

      It's probably easier to look at what Colin Parry says today which is that you can't forgive what he did but you have to respect the man he became in later life

      Please don't ever tell us..."you HAVE to respect the man he became".

      He was utter scum and if there is a hell, may he burn long and painfully in it.
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      Okay, let's be controversial here.

      Was he a terrorist? YES
      Was he a murderer? MOST LIKELY
      Did he cause pain and suffering to many many families? UNDOUBTEDLY
      Did he play a significant part on the peace process? YES
      Did his actions in later life improve the prospects for peace in northern Ireland? YES
      Did his work with Ian Paisley give hope to many families on both sides? HIGHLY LIKELY

      So on balance he seems to have been a sinner who repented. In which case I'm sure the Christians on both sides of this debate will do the Christian thing

      It's probably easier to look at what Colin Parry says today which is that you can't forgive what he did but you have to respect the man he became in later life
      The PIRA was so badly infiltrated by British security agents that McGuiness couldn't take a shit without us knowing.

      He had no choice but to move into Politics.
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      Bet he gets a full state funeral.
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      Please don't ever tell us..."you HAVE to respect the man he became".

      He was utter scum and if there is a hell, may he burn long and painfully in it.
      I'm not telling you that. I'm merely repeating something that a father who had his young son murdered by the IRA said on BBC TV this morning.

      My own personal views, for what they're worth, are that for what he did as a member of the IRA he should have had a lifetime in jail. Whether that would have helped or hindered achieving the fragile peace that now exists we will never know.
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      With balaclavas and pistols.
      Nothing would surprise me. Heaven forbid any mourning IRA sympathisers should be offended.
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      The PIRA was so badly infiltrated by British security agents that McGuiness couldn't take a shit without us knowing.

      He had no choice but to move into Politics.
      If it was so badly infiltrated and if his early death would have helped secure peace earlier, why didn't it happen?
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