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    The hardest Championship ever??

    I got thinking that this season is turning out to be a very high level indeed. So I went quickly back on each of the last SIX seasons, at exactly this point in the schedule, virtually all teams on either 30 or 31 games played.

    Looking at the relative strengths of each season, but not particularly any one club, I added up the total points gained by the front runners to see if this was an usually strong season ...

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    2016-17
    Newcastle 30 - 65
    Brighton 30 - 64
    Huddersfield 30 - 58
    Reading 31 - 57
    Leeds 31 - 54
    Sheff Wed 30 - 52
    --------------------
    Norwich 31 - 50

    TOTAL POINTS BY EVERYONE: 400



    2015-16
    Hull 30 - 59
    Middlesbrough 29 - 57
    Burnley 31 - 56
    Brighton 30 - 56
    Sheff Wed 31 - 53
    Derby 31 - 51
    --------------------
    Birmingham 31 - 48

    TOTAL POINTS BY EVERYONE: 380



    2014-15
    Bournemouth 31 - 59
    Middlesbrough 30 - 59
    Derby 30 - 58
    Ipswich 31 - 57
    Watford 31 - 56
    Norwich 31 - 53
    --------------------
    Brentford 31 - 52

    TOTAL POINTS BY EVERYONE: 394



    2013-14
    Leicester 30 - 67
    Burnley 31 - 60
    QPR 29 - 56
    Derby 30 - 55
    Nottm Forest 30 54
    Reading 30 47
    --------------------
    Brighton 30 - 46

    TOTAL POINTS BY EVERYONE: 385



    2012-13
    Cardiff 30 - 64
    Hull 31 - 56
    Leicester 30 - 53
    Watford 31 53
    Crystal Pal 31 - 52
    Middlesbrough 31 - 50
    --------------------
    Brighton 31 - 46

    TOTAL POINTS BY EVERYONE: 374



    2011-12
    West Ham 30 - 57
    Southampton 31 - 56
    Cardiff 31 - 53
    Blackpool 31 - 52
    Birmingham 30 - 51
    Reading 30 - 51

    --------------------
    Hull 30 - 50

    TOTAL POINTS BY EVERYONE: 370


    My intuition has been confirmed. In no other recent season has the sum of points for the top SEVEN at this stage reached 400 points.

    Curious how some teams pop up regularly, whilst others are one season wonders.

    In part, weighing up these stats and on your own instinct, would you say it is the most difficult season ever for these clubs to get promoted?

    And will the three promoted teams in fact come from these seven? Or any surprise likely with a super charge from lower down the table, perhaps unforeseen at present?


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      I think so. Highlighted by the pace of the top 3 relative to other seasons
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      No-one has been 7/6 pts clear of third in those previous seasons.
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      The high tally of points by the top teams could indicate a relative weakness in the rest of the division, in the toughest, most evenly matched division you would surely get more draws, and therefore less points in total?
      Posted by Kosh, 19/7/2016 - 14th - 11th this year, or I'll eat my big Ritchie Blackmore hat.
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      The high tally of points by the top teams could indicate a relative weakness in the rest of the division, in the toughest, most evenly matched division you would surely get more draws, and therefore less points in total?
      I agree with this. But it goes both ways, the top teams could be better, or the competition in the championship could be worse.

      When was the season Peterborough were relegated with (I think) 54 points? Arguably that was its strongest season.
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      It doesn't strike me as either stronger or weaker, just normal.
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      No-one has been 7/6 pts clear of third in those previous seasons.
      In 2012/13 Palace were the same number of points ahead of us as we are currently ahead of Huddersfield... *shudder*
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      What strikes me is that in those previous seasons, only 1 team has more points that us on 30 games, Leicester.

      Puts in perspective how good we are going this year.
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      The hardest Championship ever??

      I got thinking that this season is turning out to be a very high level indeed. So I went quickly back on each of the last SIX seasons, at exactly this point in the schedule, virtually all teams on either 30 or 31 games played.

      Looking at the relative strengths of each season, but not particularly any one club, I added up the total points gained by the front runners to see if this was an usually strong season ...

      ...

      My intuition has been confirmed. In no other recent season has the sum of points for the top SEVEN at this stage reached 400 points.

      Curious how some teams pop up regularly, whilst others are one season wonders.

      In part, weighing up these stats and on your own instinct, would you say it is the most difficult season ever for these clubs to get promoted?

      And will the three promoted teams in fact come from these seven? Or any surprise likely with a super charge from lower down the table, perhaps unforeseen at present?


      Interested as a (well-behaved) Royals fan (as you know!) to hear your thoughts!!
      I look at it as 10-15 of those extra points have been gained by the Top 2, so this division may be harder this year because the top 2 are much better than normal, rather than 3,4,5 being much better than normal. But it is also feels that the bottom 10 are rubbish, and in contrast to most years when 'anyone could beat anyone' the bottom half all feel eminently beatable*

      *although that might just be from our perspective, I guess Reading losing at home to QPR and Leeds losing at home to Cardiff, and Huddersfield losing away at Rotherham (premonition) go against that
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      I dunno - I think both Boro and Burnley were better than what we've faced this year
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