Tammy Abraham NICKED

Ernest · Feb 9, 2017

Bit of a silly boy to say the least

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/chelsea-footballer-tammy-abraham-caught-driving-without-licence-or-insurance-a3462911.html

Blackadder · Feb 9, 2017

If Abraham pleads guilty, or is found guilty, he faces a fine of up to £5,000 and six points on his licence.

So that's a £5,000 fine then.

severnside gull · Feb 9, 2017

Didn't we have a loaned (from West Brom?) a few years back did the same thing?

pasty · Feb 9, 2017

Why does somebody who doesn't have a driving licence even own a Mercedes :shrug:

Magic Sponge · Feb 9, 2017

severnside gull said:
Didn't we have a loaned (from West Brom?) a few years back did the same thing?

Was that Jara Reyes ?

fleet · Feb 9, 2017

How do you put 6 points on his license if he doesn't have one (all allegedly etc)

Stat Brother · Feb 9, 2017

pasty said:
Why does somebody who doesn't have a driving licence even own a Mercedes

Cos all his 19 year old mates have got one. :facepalm:

Thunder Bolt · Feb 9, 2017

fleet said:
How do you put 6 points on his license if he doesn't have one (all allegedly etc)

When you do apply, sometime in the future, it comes with the six points already allocated.

severnside gull · Feb 9, 2017

Blackadder said:
If Abraham pleads guilty, or is found guilty, he faces a fine of up to £5,000 and six points on his licence.

So that's a £5,000 fine then.

No licence or insurance is a fine (max £5k) plus 3-6 points PLUS a discretionary ban and automatic retest. In practice the ban is most often automatic but I guess will depend on his very expensive brief pointing out what a very busy boy he is and his need to drive home to mommy in London on a daily basis and whether the magistrate is a football fan.
Careless driving as a separate charge is 3 points on his licence when he does take his test and a £2k max fine.

His brief will cost him more than both fines but probably not as much as his insurance which he might be advised to get next time.

Hendrax · Feb 9, 2017

fleet said:
How do you put 6 points on his license if he doesn't have one (all allegedly etc)

The points come into effect when his licence is issued.

severnside gull · Feb 9, 2017

Magic Sponge said:
Was that Jara Reyes ?

It was indeed. Well remembered. :lolol:

Thunder Bolt · Feb 9, 2017

pasty said:
Why does somebody who doesn't have a driving licence even own a Mercedes

I wonder if this has been poorly reported? It may be he had a provisional licence, but was driving on his own,which then invalidates his insurance (hence the charge driving without a valid licence and no insurance)

Audax · Feb 9, 2017

Hendrax said:
The points come into effect when his licence is issued.

And given that a brand new licence only has 6 points, if that's what he gets that licence will immediately be triggered for further sanctions.

Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo · Feb 9, 2017

severnside gull said:
Didn't we have a loaned (from West Brom?) a few years back did the same thing?

Jara Reyes, he was already banned for drink driving when Sussex Police stopped him, he admitted driving while banned and driving with no insurance and was given an additional ban. I think he was stopped by Sussex Police in the morning of a match that he went on to miss.

happypig · Feb 9, 2017

severnside gull said:
No licence or insurance is a fine (max £5k) plus 3-6 points PLUS a discretionary ban and automatic retest. In practice the ban is most often automatic but I guess will depend on his very expensive brief pointing out what a very busy boy he is and his need to drive home to mommy in London on a daily basis and whether the magistrate is a football fan.
Careless driving as a separate charge is 3 points on his licence when he does take his test and a £2k max fine.

Not quite. Careless driving is the most serious of the offences so he will be sentenced on that. The penalty is 3-9 points or a discretionary disqualification. No separate penalty for the license/insurance, they will be aggravating factors in the careless driving sentence because all were committed in a single incident.
Starting point is a fine but it could go to a community penalty.
For info, No license is 3-6 points, No insurance is 6-8 points (or discretionary disqualification).
Whether the magistrate is a football fan is completely irrelevant.

ATFC Seagull · Feb 9, 2017

Thunder Bolt said:
I wonder if this has been poorly reported? It may be he had a provisional licence, but was driving on his own,which then invalidates his insurance (hence the charge driving without a valid licence and no insurance)

Or could it be he's had a license had it revoked for clocking up the points in first 2 years?

GT49er · Feb 9, 2017

Blackadder said:
If Abraham pleads guilty, or is found guilty, he faces a fine of up to £5,000 and six points on his licence.

So that's a £5,000 fine then.

Fair enough, he'll probably think. That's probably cheaper than getting himself insured as a 19 year old driving a Merc.

severnside gull · Feb 9, 2017

W

happypig said:
Whether the magistrate is a football fan is completely irrelevant.

Im a cynic with a lifetime of observational experience :lolol:

Springal · Feb 9, 2017

GT49er said:
Fair enough, he'll probably think. That's probably cheaper than getting himself insured as a 19 year old driving a Merc.

Especially as a footballer.... didn't Ashley Barnes used to drive a Smart car and his insurance was still a few grand a year..

Bry Nylon · Feb 9, 2017

If he gets 6 points that'll be 2 more than Fat Sam has managed at Palace.

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