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Autumn Statement-Letting Agents Fees











wellquickwoody

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Chancellor amongst many other things today is set to ban Letting Agents charging fees to tenants. That's gonna piss the Agents off! Lol

Lol? The same fees will have to be paid in the end, wonder where the final bill will end up?

Got an engineer coming to ours in the next week or so to do a Gas Safe inspection. We have not asked for it, just a legal requirement, but a good thing that does have to be paid for by someone, as does an electrical inspection. It feels so much better knowing that the landlord is paying for it rather than me :facepalm:
 


nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
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Good. Letting agents are scumbags and it's easy for landlords to avoid using them. I used to rent my flat, and the money I saved myself AND my tenants by not using an agent to do some very straightforward admin was significant.
 




Marty___Mcfly

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Sep 14, 2011
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Apparently fees have been banned in Scotland for a while and have not resulted in rent increases. Maybe the Agents charge the landlords reasonable fees because they want their business.

They are probably more prone to ripping off tenants as they are more of a 'captive market', i.e. They have found a specific property they want to rent, and they have no choice of Agent as the Agent is picked by the Landlord.

Even if rents do go up to cover Landlord costs it will just make the rents a fair representation of the overall cost of renting the property.




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mikeyjh

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Dec 17, 2008
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This does help tenants - At the moment, it's completely anti competitive. Tenant looks for the right house at the right rental, in most cases they aren't going to be looking through specific agents. I, as a landlord, can negotiate the fees and rates that I pay but the tenant cannot, it's not fair. Bloody hell, I think I'm just agreeing with something that the tories are doing.
 


Fitzcarraldo

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Nov 12, 2010
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Letting Agents are pigs. When we renewed our contract at the end of last year, £15 increase in rent, same contract, we were charged a £150 (plus VAT) administrative fee for drawing up a new contract.
 




Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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I've always found the term landlord to be offensive, for some reason in this country renters might as well be labelled losers the way they are sometimes treated.
 




mikeyjh

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Dec 17, 2008
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Letting Agents are pigs. When we renewed our contract at the end of last year, £15 increase in rent, same contract, we were charged a £150 (plus VAT) administrative fee for drawing up a new contract.

Was it a new contract just to reflect the increase in rent? Or for a new fixed term renewal? Either way, it's outrageous but particularly in the former instance - We want to put your rent up £15 a month, and we'd like to charge you for the privilege. +VAT of course. That will be a form generated contract that probably takes 20 mins max to prepare print and send.
 




mikeyjh

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Dec 17, 2008
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Apparently fees have been banned in Scotland for a while and have not resulted in rent increases. Maybe the Agents charge the landlords reasonable fees because they want their business.

They are probably more prone to ripping off tenants as they are more of a 'captive market', i.e. They have found a specific property they want to rent, and they have no choice of Agent as the Agent is picked by the Landlord.

Even if rents do go up to cover Landlord costs it will just make the rents a fair representation of the overall cost of renting the property.




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There's no doubt that it would have some upward pressure on rent but not to the full extent of the charges, you'd expect the cost to spread over rent, agents fees and landlord income.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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Seems fair enough.
 


beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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about time too. in any other industry these admin fees are the cost of doing business and just rolled into the prices, and the company looks to minimise them. £150 to renew a contract, which cant cost them more than £10 in time and materials. when i rented we had a fee for credit check (about £20) and one for the inventory company (about £30) which was fair enough. worse case, fees get blended across the year, but most likely Landlords will shop around for agents with the lower fees as they are in a position to do so.
 










Gazwag

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Mar 4, 2004
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Lol? The same fees will have to be paid in the end, wonder where the final bill will end up?

Got an engineer coming to ours in the next week or so to do a Gas Safe inspection. We have not asked for it, just a legal requirement, but a good thing that does have to be paid for by someone, as does an electrical inspection. It feels so much better knowing that the landlord is paying for it rather than me :facepalm:

Is it not a good idea that these inspections are mandatory, better than dying in your sleep due to a faulty boiler that the landlord never serviced isn't it? People who own houses get their boilers serviced and have to pay for it.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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about time too. in any other industry these admin fees are the cost of doing business and just rolled into the prices, and the company looks to minimise them. £150 to renew a contract, which cant cost them more than £10 in time and materials. when i rented we had a fee for credit check (about £20) and one for the inventory company (about £30) which was fair enough. worse case, fees get blended across the year, but most likely Landlords will shop around for agents with the lower fees as they are in a position to do so.

And charging for a reference is a real piss take.
 


Giraffe

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Aug 8, 2005
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Wont they just pass them onto the landlords who will increase rents to cover their higher fees

Exactly this. It's what has happened in Scotland. Tenants have ultimately ended up paying increased rent leading to less visibility as to what they are paying for.
 


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