Because the sycophantic world in which we live in deems it necessary to be SEEN to commemorate our war dead, it is no longer acceptable to remember privately.
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Why doesn't FIFA just shove it.
- Thread starter AmexRuislip
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Because the sycophantic world in which we live in deems it necessary to be SEEN to commemorate our war dead, it is no longer acceptable to remember privately.
Absolutely bang on! Well said Sir.
Albumen
Don't wait for me!
To sell newspapers and pander to right wing nationalism.
They weren't up in arms when England drew with Sweden in a forgettable 1-1 draw in a friendly at Old Trafford in 2001, on the day before Armistice Day, where there were no armbands and no poppies.
Similarly the last time England played on 11 November itself – a 4-1 victory against Yugoslavia in Belgrade in 1987 with goals from Peter Beardsley, John Barnes, Bryan Robson and Tony Adams – none of the players sported armbands or poppies, and no-one cared.
For me, it's a time for quiet contemplation, to remember relatives, friends, those who had no choice in WW1&2.
Unfortunately the charity is being ruined by right wing media.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
I don't know anyone who is guilt tripped into buying a poppy. If anyone says anything to you about not having a poppy, you can have a word with them.
Not a single poppy seller will make you feel guilty.
oneillco
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Why stop at FIFA? Let's withdraw from the world entirely. Once we figure out what "leaving" the EU actually means then next leave NATO, then the UN and the Commonwealth, and icing on the cake England can withdraw from the UK. Splendid isolation, country taken fully back.
Half Time Pies
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You prefer people who support the killers of British service personnel
I think that's a perverse interpretation of what Ernest said.
ManOfSussex
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Perhaps the fact that over 600 British soldiers have died in Iraq and Afghanistan since then has changed peoples attitudes to remembrance.
Nathan
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Don't disagree with that, but 255 British military personnel died in the Falklands war, and the game with Yugoslavia was played a few years later. We are able to show respect before and after the game.
Albumen
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I doubt it, the poppy appeal to most is for veterans of the world wars. What's changed is the media have got a bigger stranglehold on the weak.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
I went to school and have friends the same age as me who served in Iraq and Afghanistan. The ultimate sacrifice became a bit more real for me when someone I sat next to in a science lesson ended up being shot at when on foot patrol in Basra.
Each to their own, and nobody should be forced to wear a poppy, but I've always worn one since primary school in the 1980's.
Albumen
Don't wait for me!
I'm sorry to hear about your school friend. For me I'll wear a poppy on the 11th but once the 948 survivors left of the WWs pass away I'll probably give to other charities and leave the 11th solely for thought of those who had no choice.
I am proud of what our Armed Forces have done and continue to do to protect us and others around the world. Sadly many have been killed, from the horrors of the Somme to the more recent conflicts . I am wearing a poppy to salute them !!!
This.
alfredmizen
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no need for much comment , this post and tossers like you are everything that is wrong about this country.
alfredmizen
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So your view is "tough shit , you signed up, take the consequences ", ?
alfredmizen
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That's the way I read it .
alfredmizen
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I don't, but then again you're one of those who refuses to accept Corbyns blatant support for the IRA
Megazone
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