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FBI's "explosive information" on close ties between Trump & Russian government



The Maharajah of Sydney

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FBI's "explosive information" on close ties between Trump & Russian government

U.S. politics just got even murkier - looks like it's now "The Donald's" turn to be probed by the FBI

Reuters with comments from US Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid

* Says FBI Drector Comey "may have broken the law" by publicly disclosing new steps in Clinton email probe this close to election day
* Says " it has become clear" FBI has "explosive information" about close ties between Trump, his top advisers and Russian government
* Accuses Comey of "double standard" and selective approach to publicizing information
 

sydney

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Jul 11, 2003
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**** sake , i am so over all this political bollox......at the end of the day trump and clinton are as bad as each other......can they not just get da feck on with this election.
 

AmexRuislip

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[h=1]Trump’s Russian connections[/h]
Pressure on Donald Trump over his ties with Russia has grown after the US formally accused Vladimir Putin’s government of meddling in November’s presidential election
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OCTOBER 16, 2016 by Michael Stott and Catherine Belton


[h=2]THE SOVIET YEARS AND YELTSIN’S 'WILD EAST'[/h]
The Republican candidate’s links to Russia are a mix of bling, business and bluster spanning 30 years. The FT has compiled this account from a variety of sources, tracing Trump's fascination for Russia from its beginnings in Soviet times, through the Putin era to the US presidential campaign.
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[h=2]Yuri Dubinin[/h]A first contact from Moscow
In 1986 Soviet ambassador Yuri Dubinin sat next to Donald Trump at a New York lunch and they talked about Trump Tower. “One thing led to another, and now I’m talking about building a large luxury hotel across the street from the Kremlin in partnership with the Soviet government,” the tycoon recalled in his book Trump: The Art of the Deal. Trump flew to Moscow at Dubinin’s invitation to discuss the hotel project with the Soviet tourism agency.



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[h=2]Mikhail Gorbachev[/h]No glasnost at Trump Tower
The hotel never materialised but Trump aides promised something even better: Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev and his wife, Raisa, would tour Trump Tower during a 1988 visit to New York. Trump said Gorbachev wanted to see the building because “it’s become the hottest building in New York”. But the visit didn’t happen: the Gorbachevs visited other Manhattan landmarks and Trump rushed out of his tower to greet a lookalike of the Soviet leader.



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[h=2]Zurab Tsereteli[/h]Russia’s Columbus seeks the new world
Trump’s Russia connections continued under Gorbachev’s successor, Boris Yeltsin. Trump attempted in 1997 to erect a giant bronze statue of Christopher Columbus donated by the Russian government at his development on the Hudson river. Taller than the Statue of Liberty, the artwork was crafted by Zurab Tsereteli, a close friend of the Moscow mayor. It ended up in Puerto Rico after several US cities refused to accept it.




[h=2]TRUMP’S RUSSIA DEALS AND LINKS MULTIPLY[/h]
As financial headaches cramped Trump’s style in the US, the property tycoon’s organisation stepped up efforts to win Russian business.
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[h=2]Tevfik Arif[/h]Trump’s Russia-connected business partners
By the 2000s, corporate bankruptcies had limited Donald Trump’s access to capital markets. An FT investigation showed that the tycoon joined forces with Bayrock, a New York property developer founded by a Soviet-born newcomer to the US, Tevfik Arif, to pursue deals around the world. Their best-known collaboration was Trump SoHo, a 46-storey hotel-condominium completed in 2010.



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[h=2]Ilya Reznik[/h]Coastal Miami becomes little Moscow
Throughout the 2000s, records show Russians were buying millions of dollars of Trump- branded real estate in the US, according to property records reviewed by the FT. The Trump Organisation said it did not believe Russians spent more money on Trump ventures than those from other regions. Russian real estate broker Ilya Reznik told the FT that Russian could be heard everywhere in the Trump properties on the Florida coast.



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[h=2]Trump Luxury Vodka[/h]Trump Luxury vodka makes a splash in Moscow
Trump and his partners promoted their “24K Super Premium Vodka”, a luxury vodka sold in a bottle decorated with 24-karat gold, at the Millionaire Fair in Moscow in 2007. The fair lured Russian high-spenders with luxury yachts, diamond-encrusted mobile phones and entire islands for sale. The venture later went out of business.



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[h=2]Dmitry Rybolovlev[/h]The oligarch who bought Trump’s mansion
Trump’s single biggest reported Russian deal to date came in 2008 when fertiliser billionaire Dmitry Rybolovlev purchased the tycoon’s Palm Beach mansion for $95m. Trump boasted of the profit he made on the deal, having bought the property four years earlier for only £41m. Trump denied ever meeting the oligarch and said “he just happened to be from Russia”.



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[h=2]Eric Trump[/h]Trump’s sons promote Russian business
At the same time, the Trump family were gushing with praise for Russians. While marketing Trump SoHo, the tycoon’s second son, Eric, told Russian journalists that “the best property buyers are now Russian” while Trump himself said: “I really like Vladimir Putin.” Trump’s first son, Donald Jr, told eTurboNews that “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets…we see a lot of money pouring in from Russia”.



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[h=2]Sergei Millian[/h]The Russian middleman claiming to act for Trump
One of the people who said he brought Russian money into Trump projects was Sergei Millian, head of the Russian-American Chamber of Commerce. His organisation said in 2009 it had “signed formal agreements with The Trump Organisation” to service Russian real estate clients and Millian bragged about winning Trump’s affection at the 2007 Millionaire Fair in Moscow. The Trump Organisation denied that Trump had any relationship with him.



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[h=2]Aras Agalarov[/h]Trump’s Russian beauty pageant
Moscow property billionaire Aras Agalarov signed a $14m deal to bring Trump’s Miss Universe beauty pageant to Moscow in 2013. Trump invited Vladimir Putin, tweeting that the Kremlin chief would be his “new best friend” if he came. The Russian president instead sent a trusted envoy, Kremlin property chief Vladimir Kozhin and a “beautiful present”. At the show, Agalarov claimed he had a deal to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.




[h=2]RUSSIAN RUCTIONS IN TRUMP'S ELECTION CAMPAIGN[/h]
When Trump made his run for the presidency, a volley of pro-Moscow remarks and a slate of advisers with notable Russian connections rang alarm bells in Washington.
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[h=2]Vladimir Putin[/h]Trump strikes a pro-Moscow tone
Trump attracted attention for multiple comments praising Vladimir Putin and his policies. Last December, Putin called Trump “talented”, a compliment Trump described as a “great honour”. This summer Trump appeared to incite Moscow to hack into Hillary Clinton’s private emails. At a 2014 press lunch, Trump claimed to have spoken “indirectly and directly” with Putin, “who could not have been nicer”. He subsequently denied ever meeting Putin.



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[h=2]Paul Manafort[/h]Ex-chairman of Trump's campaign
Trump’s campaign chairman Paul Manafort quit in August 2016 amid controversy over his work advising the pro-Moscow former president of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych. Ousted from power in 2014 amid allegations of massive embezzlement, Yanukovych fled to Russia. Ukrainian authorities found a ledger showing $12.7m in off-book payments to Manafort by Yanukovych’s party, payments Manafort has strongly denied receiving. Manafort’s interpreter had a background in Russian military intelligence, according to colleagues.



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[h=2]Carter Page[/h]Trump's former foreign policy adviser
Manafort is not the only Trump adviser to quit over Russian links. Carter Page, a former Merrill Lynch banker and adviser to Russian state energy company Gazprom, was named by Trump as a foreign policy adviser. Following an intelligence briefing about allegations Page conducted private talks with Russian officials about lifting sanctions if Trump were president, Senate minority leader Harry Reid demanded an FBI investigation. Page later resigned.



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[h=2]Richard Burt[/h]The former ambassador with a Russian link
Richard Burt, an ex-US ambassador to Germany, helped draft a Trump foreign policy speech in April, while earning hundreds of thousands of dollars lobbying for a Russian- backed gas pipeline that would extend Putin’s leverage over Europe. Burt told the FT he was “not in any way officially involved” with Trump’s campaign, but provided “some ideas or language” for the speech. Burt advises the owners of Russia’s Alfa Group, who have close Kremlin ties.



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[h=2]Michael Flynn[/h]The ex-general paid to attend a Moscow banquet
Michael Flynn, a former head of the US Defense Intelligence Agency, was named as a national security adviser by the Trump campaign and was also considered as a presidential running mate. Like Trump, Flynn has argued for closer links with Russia. In interviews, Flynn acknowledged being paid to give a speech and attend a lavish anniversary party for the state-controlled RT television network in Moscow, where he sat next to President Putin.




[h=2]THE OUTSIDE VIEW[/h]
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[h=2]Michael D'Antonio[/h]Author of “The Truth About Trump”
Michael D’Antonio, author of “The Truth About Trump”, believes the Republican contender is drawn to Russian oligarchs’ aggression and toughness as well as their wealth. “He’s practically Donald the Red,” he said. “He is very much focused on Russia and it certainly causes a person to wonder why.”



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[h=2]David Cay Johnston[/h]Author of “The Making of Donald Trump”
David Cay Johnston, who wrote “The Making of Donald Trump”, a biography, believes the full story about Trump and Russia has yet to be told. “Every time Vladimir Putin is mentioned, Trump goes out of his way to express deep respect for him, which suggests there’s something very important which we simply don’t know,” he said.



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[h=2]Michael McFaul[/h]Former US ambassador to Russia
Michael McFaul, who advised the Obama White House on Russia before taking up his diplomatic post, says Trump’s policy statements on Russia are “frightening”. “Does Putin prefer that Trump would win the election? Absolutely yes,” he told the FT. “Why wouldn’t he want Trump to be president? He’s said things that support his policy.” McFaul concluded: “There’s a lot we don’t know.”




[h=2]WHAT DO TRUMP AND HIS ORGANISATION SAY?[/h]
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[h=2]Michael Cohen[/h]Executive vice-president and special counsel, the Trump Organisation
“The Trump Organisation does not have any properties in Russia and the press’ [sic] fascination with this narrative is both misleading and fabricated. Perpetuation of this false connection…or any connection with Russia altogether – is yet another example of the press’s liberal bias towards Mr Trump.”



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[h=2]Donald Trump[/h]In the 2nd presidential debate, discussing hacking of Democratic Party systems
“Maybe there is no hacking but they always blame Russia and the reason is because they think they’re trying to tarnish me with Russia. I know about Russia, but I know nothing about the inner workings of Russia. I have no businesses, I have no loans from Russia."



https://ig.ft.com/sites/trumps-russian-connections/





 

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I can't help but suggest that a US president that got on well with the Russian President might not actually be a bad thing?

Certainly worked with Gorbachev.
 


JC Footy Genius

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Jun 9, 2015
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Looks like the latest move in the media war. Hillary campaign trying to counter the renewed FBI interest in her emails.

God knows what both sides will come up with in the coming days ... makes our political system seem quite respectable!
 

nicko31

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**** sake , i am so over all this political bollox......at the end of the day trump and clinton are as bad as each other......can they not just get da feck on with this election.

They are both bad, but not as bad as each other. Trump really is a huge risk for world stability. He makes George Bush Jnr seem statesman like
 

Tyrone Biggums

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They are both bad, but not as bad as each other. Trump really is a huge risk for world stability. He makes George Bush Jnr seem statesman like

Because the world has been so stable under Obomber. That ****er has drone bombed more people than anyone else on the planet.
 


beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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Because the world has been so stable under Obomber. That ****er has drone bombed more people than anyone else on the planet.

except Bush jnr of course. and probably Putin at the current run rate.
 




vegster

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May 5, 2008
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I can't help but suggest that a US president that got on well with the Russian President might not actually be a bad thing?

Certainly worked with Gorbachev.

You can't compare Gorbachev with Putin....no one " gets on well " with Putin.... you do what Putin wants or you end up with a bullet in the head or doing time in a Gulag on ............(excuse the pun ) Trumped up charges. Gorbachev looked towards the West to save wasting money on a military that Russia could not afford and could not match for technology and start trying to grow an economy...... Putin wants to go back 30 years and divide the West and cares little for Russian people.
 

beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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It's interesting that this is automatically considered a bad thing. What's wrong with trying to build Bette relationships with Russia?

building better relationships with Russia is a great idea. however, Putin is looking to reestablish Russia as a global power, wants to reestablish influence and control over near neighbours and is greatly dependant on oil and gas for economic stability. Trump is claiming to be in favour isolationism, effectively declaring a trade war with the far east and any other part of the world, and is suppressing oil and gas prices with fracking. so theres risk of a power vacuum protecting the the east european borders from Russia, with economic dominance from US.

personality wise, they will get along just fine until there is a some minor difference or slight which they both inflate to the size of their egos, which are huge and nuclear backed. thankfully, i'd expect Putin to be a bit more strategic thinking, so avoid all out war, but the way Trump cant handle criticism will make him a very dangerous President who could be goaded in to conflict. the real threat will be China, with all their willy waving and Trump with a mandate to do something about over production, i can see the conflict there.
 


Blue Valkyrie

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Will be interesting if the FBI releases the proof of the Moscow sextape leverage Putin has over his poodle.

In order for balance of course.
 

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