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    I'm thinking of shelling out on one of those Hive thingies to control my heating and water.
    Thing is, the old feller who installed a new boiler a few years back "bypassed" the room stat (said we didn't need one with thermostatical valves).
    Anyone know if I can just add a hive and "unbypass" his bodge ?

    Is there a better smart controller out there ?

    (Oh, I can't ask the fitter, he dead)

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      I'm thinking of shelling out on one of those Hive thingies to control my heating and water.
      Thing is, the old feller who installed a new boiler a few years back "bypassed" the room stat (said we didn't need one with thermostatical valves).
      Anyone know if I can just add a hive and "unbypass" his bodge ?

      Is there a better smart controller out there ?

      (Oh, I can't ask the fitter, he dead)
      I don't have a recommendation on a controller but I'm pretty sure your dead fitter was talking cobblers. I thought it was a requirement under building regs to have a room stat.
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      I don't have a recommendation on a controller but I'm pretty sure your dead fitter was talking cobblers. I thought it was a requirement under building regs to have a room stat.
      He wasn't talking cobblers, the room stat does nothing; turn the heating on and the boiler fires up no matter where the stat (it's still there) is set.

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      I can highly recommend Nest. Nest also do smoke/carbon monoxide alarms, security cameras. You can add bits onto your nest environment. Smart learning, learns your habits and when you arrive/leave/get up/go to bed. You can turn off smart learning but I use it and love the thing. The nest and my new boiler have saved me a lot of money on heating bills.
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      He wasn't talking cobblers, the room stat does nothing; turn the heating on and the boiler fires up no matter where the stat (it's still there) is set.

      A stark lesson in not letting a retired family friend's brother do a job (even if he was fully qualified).
      If the stat is still there, I'm sure an electrician can quickly and easily hook up the new thermostat with the demand for heat. Although, with the nest you don't need to have the thermostat on the wall, it can also be free standing and you can move it anywhere you have a plug.
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      Why do people want to wire their heating up to the internet? I am genuinely interested, as I can't understand why you'd want to micromanage the central heating, when if you've set it up properly it'll happily manage itself all year round?
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      Why do people want to wire their heating up to the internet? I am genuinely interested, as I can't understand why you'd want to micromanage the central heating, when if you've set it up properly it'll happily manage itself all year round?
      I want to be able to control it from my lounge or office (both on different floors to my CH controller).
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      Why do people want to wire their heating up to the internet? I am genuinely interested, as I can't understand why you'd want to micromanage the central heating, when if you've set it up properly it'll happily manage itself all year round?
      Because these things are smart. If you get up at 7.30am on weekdays, the Nest learns that and makes sure that the house is warm when you get up (to whatever temperature you've set), but it learns how long it takes to heat your house, so it might only click on 5 mins before if the house is already close to the set temp. If it's colder in the house after a cold night it will click on earlier to heat the house. Likewise if you like it say 20c but have left the house at 9am, the Nest will stop heating 20 mins before as it knows the hot water in your rads will continue heating until you leave. There are really a lot more things it does, nearly all of them designed to save your heating bill, and set the house to what you want whilst using the minimum amount of Gas. Then of course you've got the control while you are away from home. It also will never let the house go below 5c (if you are away from home for a while in winter) to stop any risk of freezing pipes.
      Honestly I was sceptical at first but the thing has won me over.
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      Unfortunately it can't heat the house to 20c, but heat the bit where mrs H sits to about 55C to make her happy (all through the summer she was sitting with a blanket over her complaining about the cold)
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      I want to be able to control it from my lounge or office (both on different floors to my CH controller).
      isnt that the point of the thermostat valves on the radiators? if you want to control different floors you're going to need seperate zones with thermostats for each floor, and/or values on the radiators. or you just want a glorified remote control for the thermostat? eitherway im with Curious dont see the point beyond technotoy.
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