Lewis Dunk - England Squad

brighton terra · Oct 8, 2016

Would Dunk be in the England squad today if Mike Dean hadn't screwed us over?

I can't help thinking he's better than Michael Keane and he's only been overlooked because it's just not the done thing to select lower tier players!

Bring back Bryan wade!! · Oct 8, 2016

This thread was done a few days ago....

Cheeky Monkey · Oct 8, 2016

Bring back Bryan wade!! said:
This thread was done a few days ago....

And how they laughed about it on the BBS.

Quinny · Oct 8, 2016

Cheeky Monkey said:
And how they laughed about it on the BBS.

Can you blame them?

WhingForPresident · Oct 8, 2016

Doubt it. Keane played frequently for the u21s as well as playing for the u19's & 20s. The fact he was on United's books probably works in his favour too. Very different centre backs but both very good players.

Cowfold Seagull · Oct 8, 2016

Quite simply, Michael Keane is able to show his skills in the Premier League. Lewis Dunk isn't.

That, to many in the England heirarchy, is enough. Harsh but true.

Hiney · Oct 8, 2016

Cowfold Seagull said:
Quite simply, Michael Keane is able to show his skills in the Premier League. Lewis Dunk isn't.

That, to many in the England heirarchy, is enough. Harsh but true.

Not forgetting the small matter that Keane is actually a better player than Lewis Dunk.

SeagullofMalaysia · Oct 8, 2016

If Deeney and Cresswell can't get into the English squad (with a knob of a manager, admittedly), then it's the same story for Dunky

GT49er · Oct 8, 2016

WhingForPresident said:
Doubt it. Keane played frequently for the u21s as well as playing for the u19's & 20s. The fact he was on United's books probably works in his favour too. Very different centre backs but both very good players.

So did JFC, so what does that prove?

Thunder Bolt · Oct 8, 2016

Quinny said:
Can you blame them?

Them? Don't you mean 'us'.
At least be honest about who you support.

Gullflyinghigh · Oct 8, 2016

Cowfold Seagull said:
Quite simply, Michael Keane is able to show his skills in the Premier League. Lewis Dunk isn't.

That, to many in the England heirarchy, is enough. Harsh but true.

And also pretty fair. Dunk has had a great start but for as long as Keane is managing Aguero levels of opposition, and Dunk isn't, he's always going to be given the nod.

WhingForPresident · Oct 8, 2016

GT49er said:
So did JFC, so what does that prove?

Not saying it proves anything, just that they prefer to put in players that have played through the ranks.

saafend_seagull · Oct 8, 2016

SeagullofMalaysia said:
If Deeney and Cresswell can't get into the English squad (with a knob of a manager, admittedly), then it's the same story for Dunky

Creswell has a long term injury !

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GT49er · Oct 8, 2016

WhingForPresident said:
Not saying it proves anything, just that they prefer to put in players that have played through the ranks.

Really? Can't quote stats but it seems to me that large numbers of youth internationals never get anywhere near the full international team (or the PL for that matter).

8th battalion East Lancs · Oct 8, 2016

Hiney said:
Not forgetting the small matter that Keane is actually a better player than Lewis Dunk.

Munkfish · Oct 8, 2016

Is everyone also overlooking Steve Cook who is playing for B'muff, there is no doubt in Dunks ability, however there are still a few players ahead of him in the pecking order right now.

edna krabappel · Oct 8, 2016

Cook's been far from infallible for Bournemouth, for what it's worth.

That said, good though Dunk has been lately, he has no right to be anywhere near the England squad currently, in my opinion. He's had a very good start to 2016/17, but that's it! It's only about fifteen games ago that he got a daft red card against Derby, which arguably had a significant impact on our promotion chances. I'd want him to maintain his current level of play for a lot longer before I even contemplated him playing international football.

Might be different if he had some sort of Northern Irish, Welsh or Scottish blood in there: he'd stand a chance with their limited pool of players, and the fact that their squads are filled with Championship footballers. But England, no matter how shite they are, have a far bigger pool to choose from, which means they're not going to pick Championship centre halves.

Mackenzie · Oct 8, 2016

Better than Dann.

hans kraay fan club · Oct 8, 2016

brighton terra said:
Would Dunk be in the England squad today if Mike Dean hadn't screwed us over?

I can't help thinking he's better than Michael Keane and he's only been overlooked because it's just not the done thing to select lower tier players!

Perhaps if he hadn't got himself a ridiculous ban, and had been playing that day, things might have panned out differently.

Grombleton · Oct 8, 2016

I'd love to see Dunk appear for the national team, at whatever level past, present or future.

The issue is, he's a Championship defender, and the full national squad don't want to know. If we/he get to the PL then he may have an outside chance, but not until then.

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