[Politics] Brexit

Baldseagull · Mar 22, 2019

pastafarian said:
So which revoking version is it angry little man?
The revoking version as per the petition “Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU”. That version that some remoaners want where Brexit is killed dead, no more talks, no more votes just kill it off and remain as per previous membership
Or is it the other revoking version mentioned by other remainers where we revoke Article 50, get rid of the current deal and instead look at other alternatives and options for leaving and re-invoke A50 later but with a bonus option when voting to remain in.
Which confused remoaners are telling the right version?.

Both options are on the table, if you can get majority in parliament with a single vision for leaving, it can be re invoked, in a few months or forty years. it's not like the leave campaign where remainers are going to suggest that we could spend ficticious amounts of money on the NHS, or that we can get the exact same balls up by revoking as leaving, and then the Government has the impossible task of trying to **** things up just as much as if we had left.

LlcoolJ · Mar 22, 2019

pastafarian said:
You could have simply said which version of revoke you are petitioning for, the version that Ends brexit stone dead and we just go back to being members of the EU or the other version your remainer friend hkfc said which is the revoke version where the process is put on hold and other options to leaving are explored.
But you didnt......i suspect because you dont really know yourself.

Oh look. I already answered you by replying to your previous nonsense. It's as if I'm psychic or.......... no, just not a complete...***** [emoji23]

Two for the price of one sunshine. Nice bonus for you.

pastafarian · Mar 23, 2019

LlcoolJ said:
I'll have to say it again. You are extremely stupid.

Revoking A50 means we can take a step back, discuss things properly, probably have a general election (please God let Labour have got rid of Corbyn) and possibly have a second vote on the options of leaving. Now that we know more about what the options actually are. It could still go either way.

It's in no way similar to the "voting for Brexit when nobody had a clue what that meant" shitstorm.

Your comparisons are moronic.

Good, good. So you are in the put it on hold and explore all other options of leaving camp and possibly vote to stay in. Good to know.
It will disappoint the other remainers though that are petitioning for Article 50 to be revoked and brexit cancelled and ended stone dead,once and for all.

daveinplzen · Mar 23, 2019

Visit the thread to see Brexit wankers still talking shit in this shambles.

Farehamseagull · Mar 23, 2019

She’s excellent. I don’t know how anyone can spend their days surrounded by and reporting on the incompetent fools she has too and yet retain sense and decency.

The fact she is clearly a remainer improves her standing even more.

Blue Valkyrie · Mar 23, 2019

Macron is on the side of the British people who will suffer badly when *no deal* hits. But he must respect our vote.

Good man, tells it like it is.

https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1109146468605153281?s=19

redoubtable seagull · Mar 23, 2019

Harry Wilson's tackle said:
Yes. This is what I think every time he reports.

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Selfie?

Westdene Seagull · Mar 23, 2019

Thunder Bolt said:
Who, incidentally is encouraging fraud, and is, in fact, wrong.

Not that I much care about the petition .... it's rather ponitless but :

a. It's not fraud under the Fraud Act 2006 as petitions are basically just bits of paper that people are signing to indicate their opinion. There is no gain to the signer by using false details.

b. The only thing the petition can achieve is a debate in Parliament ...... which has and is already being had.

Dorset Seagull · Mar 23, 2019

Farehamseagull said:
She’s excellent. I don’t know how anyone can spend their days surrounded by and reporting on the incompetent fools she has too and yet retain sense and decency.

The fact she is clearly a remainer improves her standing even more.

I think the £400k a year helps her to get through it

Is it PotG? · Mar 23, 2019

She gets right on my threepennies

Westdene Seagull · Mar 23, 2019

LlcoolJ said:
You do realise that by using that pathetic, nursery playground insult, anything else you write just comes across as "blah blah blah I'm a little cry baby" don't you?

Although I realise self awareness isn't your strong point, you could do yourself a favour and actually post like an adult.

Now go and count the number of remainer posts in this thread using phrases such as Little Englanders, thickos, stupid, racist, xenophobic, prick and even retard. I think remoaners is rather tame by comparison.

Guinness Boy · Mar 23, 2019

GT49er said:
Well, that has been blatantly obvious for the last two and more years. A disgrace to the BBC's aim of impartiality.

What absolute nonsense.

The idea that you cannot have an opinion on politics if you work for the BBC is ludicrous. You just have to ensure that your reporting doesn't display it. And her reporting does not. On the other hand the "other side" give Piers Morgan a free platform whenever he fancies it.

LlcoolJ · Mar 23, 2019

Westdene Seagull said:
Now go and count the number of remainer posts in this thread using phrases such as Little Englanders, thickos, stupid, racist, xenophobic, prick and even retard. I think remoaners is rather tame by comparison.

I honestly couldn't care less mate. I was just pointing out that whenever I read that saddo term, I automatically ignore anything else the person has posted. Because they make themselves sound about four years old.

Lever · Mar 23, 2019

Westdene Seagull said:
Now go and count the number of remainer posts in this thread using phrases such as Little Englanders, thickos, stupid, racist, xenophobic, prick and even retard. I think remoaners is rather tame by comparison.

Dear God.....have we really reached the stage where you are now asking someone to compare the numbers and harshness of insults between opposing groups?

Why not just make out your case as best you can and, as Gandhi once said, 'be the change you wish to see'?

GrizzlingGammon · Mar 23, 2019

Westdene Seagull said:
Now go and count the number of remainer posts in this thread using phrases such as Little Englanders, thickos, stupid,racist, xenophobic, prick and even retard. I think remoaners is rather tame by comparison.

Generally because of something they've said about a foreign national. The last time I saw someone use 'retard' was by a leaver.

Rogero · Mar 23, 2019

Her reporting does show it everytime she talks.

Garry Nelson's teacher · Mar 23, 2019

JC Footy Genius said:
My sincerest apologies for not replying but I have on numerous occasions posted the positive case for leaving in direct response to accusations that none are forthcoming. Perhaps you missed them.

Increased democratic accountability for those that govern us.

Re-establishing Primacy of UK law.

Halting UK drift towards ever closer union.

Increased control of immigration.

Prioritising UK trade economic opportunities with the fastest growing countries, trade blocks.

Not being part of an organisation that ignores democracy and inflicts crushing austerity on the poorest and most vulnerable (see Greece)

Even the EU fear we will become an economic success, a less regulatory bureaucratic nation, more free market powerhouse on the edge of Europe ... Such a shame many Uk citizens can't see the opportunities

Thank you. I can't see many 'material' advantages here or many points of competitive advantage other than in two of your points. Maybe it's the 'qualitative ones' that are the winners (as indeed your side did 'win'). I wonder though if Brexit is really the platform for us becoming a kinder, more inclusive country with more opportunities for the 'left behind' communities who (in my view, falsely) voted to leave? So in a broader sense than simply the economic (always the weakest card in the Brexiteer pack) will we become a 'better' country? (Jury is out; I'll leave that question hanging.)

el punal · Mar 23, 2019

Harry Wilson's tackle said:
Seems a good reporter to me
.

What about Sopel?

Jon Sopel is the BBC’s man in the States. He has written an excellent book called “If Only They Didn’t Speak English” about his time during the U.S. election in 2016. His description of people and events is very revealing.

Guinness Boy · Mar 23, 2019

Rogero said:
Her reporting does show it everytime she talks.

Just because she's not turning red faced and standing there with a pint screaming "just get on with it" does not make her biased.

Objectively Brexit is a mess. However, Brexit is not her only remit. She's the BBC's Political Editor, she's not Chief Brexit Reporter. It's just that between us, the people, and them the MPs that she reports on, that's all we currently have to talk about politically. There's no way I'd control my disdain if I had to spend every day watching people covering themselves in shit whilst trying to polish a turd.

studio150 · Mar 23, 2019

nicko31 said:
About 10 times that of the petition for no deal, and its only been going 48 hours

Little surprised Brexiteers are terrified of putting Brexit reality to a test with the public

nicko31 said:
Please don't tell lies

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