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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
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Jul 16, 2003
57,846
hassocks
I can only see 2 possible outcomes in October:

1. Johnson doesn't get a deal and he is forced to seek an extension.
2. Johnson and the ERG sells the DUP down the river and agrees to an all-Ireland customs union arrangement.

Under Theresa May the second of these had been ruled out by both Theresa May's red lines and her needing the DUP's votes. However, given Juncker is about to retire and looking for a positive outcome to his tenure, given the people of Northern Ireland support such a Customs Union and given Boris has staked his reputation on getting a result I think an all-Ireland customs union IS a possibility.

Won’t get through parliament, surely.
 


Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
30,521
Biggest export market in Europe of German cars are the British. Can they just turn their noses up at us?

They can offset some of their loss by selling more to the Far East after agreeing free trade deals with Japan and South Korea and filling the gap in the market left behind by the decimation of the UK car industry. Even then, there's a strong degree of brand loyalty still in the UK for their cars. They're OK.
 




Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
NSC Patreon
Jul 16, 2003
57,846
hassocks
They can offset some of their loss by selling more to the Far East after agreeing free trade deals with Japan and South Korea and filling the gap in the market left behind by the decimation of the UK car industry. Even then, there's a strong degree of brand loyalty still in the UK for their cars. They're OK.

It really is tragic some people still claim we hold all the cards.

Desperate.
 




Mo Gosfield

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Aug 11, 2010
6,276
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No they don't, Germany and France will make up the majority of the shortfall. Merkel and Macron agreed that when they formed their ' closer alliance ' recently ( all within the EU of course but just protecting themselves a little bit more in case of any future changes )
 


Sussex Nomad

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Aug 26, 2010
18,185
EP
They can offset some of their loss by selling more to the Far East after agreeing free trade deals with Japan and South Korea and filling the gap in the market left behind by the decimation of the UK car industry. Even then, there's a strong degree of brand loyalty still in the UK for their cars. They're OK.

When they become to expensive to buy due to the EU steadfastly not having a border/trade agreement with us, brand loyalty will be a thing of the past.
 








Sussex Nomad

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Aug 26, 2010
18,185
EP
No they don't, Germany and France will make up the majority of the shortfall. Merkel and Macron agreed that when they formed their ' closer alliance ' recently ( all within the EU of course but just protecting themselves a little bit more in case of any future changes )

I can assure you that Germany and France will not make up the deficit caused by the chasm of the British loss of money. They simply cannot afford it.
 






Jan 30, 2008
31,981
No they don't, Germany and France will make up the majority of the shortfall. Merkel and Macron agreed that when they formed their ' closer alliance ' recently ( all within the EU of course but just protecting themselves a little bit more in case of any future changes )
really, how much is that going to be then? i assume the people of France and Germany can afford it ???
regards
DR
 


zefarelly

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NSC Patreon
Jul 7, 2003
21,717
Sussex, by the sea
Is the correct answer.

Somewhat undermines those who spout that all leave voters are racists and fascists though doesn't it?

Indeed, but Lets not stop a sweeping generalisation get in the way, that's what chat forums are for! And if you believed some of the press the socialists are all racists anyway!
 








Sussex Nomad

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Aug 26, 2010
18,185
EP
Point is, I doubt the German car industry is that bothered. As brexiteers keep trumpeting..we can trade with the rest of the world, it equally applies to German car manufacturers.

Third largest buyer of German cars in the world, not bothered? Priceless.
 




CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
44,757
I was very surprised to read that Johnson didn't bring any further information about his supposed Alternative Arrangements to his meeting today.

VERY surprised.
 




zefarelly

Well-known member
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Jul 7, 2003
21,717
Sussex, by the sea
When they become to expensive to buy due to the EU steadfastly not having a border/trade agreement with us, brand loyalty will be a thing of the past.

I'm waiting for all the Allegros to come creeping out of garages ;-)

FWIW the auto industry is in the mire regardless.
 





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