JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
Didn’t expect that waffle at all
Have you been on the sauce? Straight forward question .. Do the EU No deal plans involve a customs union or a hard border?
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[Politics] Brexit
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Have you been on the sauce? Straight forward question .. Do the EU No deal plans involve a customs union or a hard border?
crodonilson
He/Him
That is the saddest things I’ve seen in a long time and is possibly one of the better reasons to support Brexit
There’s a petition going now to get them to release it as a single wth funds raised going to the people’s vote campaign.
Have you asked everybody then ?
GrizzlingGammon
Well-known member
- Dec 15, 2018
- 1,789
Now you know that immigration can be controlled whilst we are part of the EU, would you still vote to leave? If so, why?
- Jul 10, 2003
- 25,809
Well who (who wasn't called Meg) could have seen this coming 
LadySeagull
Well-known member
May loses again. Keep this up and she could be the next Palace manager.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Two cabinet ministers resigned. Parliament is sovereign not May.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
3 junior ministers resign and Letwin amendment passed.
Brexiters: "Take back control!"
Parliament: "OK."
Brexiters: "No, not like this!"
Parliament: "OK."
Brexiters: "No, not like this!"
But what if the Commons ultimately allows a form of Brexit? There’s no evidence that this is moving things to a scrap of Brexit altogethet or a second referendum, from what I understand.
portlock seagull
Why? Why us?
- Jul 28, 2003
- 17,071
I know but realistically which politician would and could have taken the job and done a better job? Anyway, now we’re going to get a series of votes that will unite parliament and sort this mess out. Best of 2 I hear and if it’s 1:1 then we’ll just have another vote. Or amendment. Or agreement. Or vote to agree on an amendment. Or an amendment to agree on a vote. To extend things a bit longer. Either way Parliament is united that something should happen. Soon. ish.
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 27,892
It means that there is now collective responsibility for any outcome rather than May running the shitstorm. And with that, common sense should prevail.
Publius Ovidius
Well-known member
A “no-deal” scenario
In a “no-deal” scenario, the UK will become a third country without any transitionary arrangements. All EU primary and secondary law will cease to apply to the UK from that moment onwards. There will be no transition period, as provided for in the Withdrawal Agreement. This will obviously cause significant disruption for citizens and businesses.
In such a scenario, the UK's relations with the EU would be governed by general international public law, including rules of the World Trade Organisation. The EU will be required to immediately apply its rules and tariffs at its borders with the UK. This includes checks and controls for customs, sanitary and phytosanitary standards and verification of compliance with EU norms. Despite the considerable preparations of the Member States' customs authorities, these controls could cause significant delays at the border. UK entities would also cease to be eligible to receive EU grants and to participate in EU procurement procedures under current terms.
Similarly, UK citizens will no longer be citizens of the European Union. They will be subject to additional checks when crossing borders into the European Union. Again, Member States have made considerable preparations at ports and airports to ensure that these checks are done as efficiently as possible, but they may nevertheless cause delays.
There's you go to all you project fear looneys. There it is in black and white from the EU.
In a “no-deal” scenario, the UK will become a third country without any transitionary arrangements. All EU primary and secondary law will cease to apply to the UK from that moment onwards. There will be no transition period, as provided for in the Withdrawal Agreement. This will obviously cause significant disruption for citizens and businesses.
In such a scenario, the UK's relations with the EU would be governed by general international public law, including rules of the World Trade Organisation. The EU will be required to immediately apply its rules and tariffs at its borders with the UK. This includes checks and controls for customs, sanitary and phytosanitary standards and verification of compliance with EU norms. Despite the considerable preparations of the Member States' customs authorities, these controls could cause significant delays at the border. UK entities would also cease to be eligible to receive EU grants and to participate in EU procurement procedures under current terms.
Similarly, UK citizens will no longer be citizens of the European Union. They will be subject to additional checks when crossing borders into the European Union. Again, Member States have made considerable preparations at ports and airports to ensure that these checks are done as efficiently as possible, but they may nevertheless cause delays.
There's you go to all you project fear looneys. There it is in black and white from the EU.
I can’t see the factions in the Commons coming ultimately to a conclusive agreement (think e.g. the wildly different views on the EU of the DUP, Rees-Mogg, Umana, Corbyn, Soubry, SNP). Hope I’m wrong.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Nothing has changed, still too many people with different ideas about what constitutes Brexit
schmunk
"Members"
If they (we) cannot agree on a change, then the only sensible path is to stay the same.
All along, I wondered if the ERG were being incredibly stubborn/overly confident in that they would only support a harder Brexit than the Government/EU had came up with, and that they might one day rue forever turning down that offer.
No one ever seemed to discuss that.
Until it was just discussed on Newsnight. We may now end up with a soft Customs Union type Brexit.
Rees-Mogg, Bone, Cash, Davis, Duncan-Smith nearly had in their grasp all they’d sought all their political lives, but instead strode for Brexit perfection.
They are highly unlikey to ever get anywhere near that ever again, their sniffiness blew it.
No one ever seemed to discuss that.
Until it was just discussed on Newsnight. We may now end up with a soft Customs Union type Brexit.
Rees-Mogg, Bone, Cash, Davis, Duncan-Smith nearly had in their grasp all they’d sought all their political lives, but instead strode for Brexit perfection.
They are highly unlikey to ever get anywhere near that ever again, their sniffiness blew it.